Sir_Afridi Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 35 year old Georgia weightlifter Kulsoom Abdullah scored a victory for herself and American Muslims today. The International Weightlifting Federation modified its policy to allow her to cover her hair, arms and legs when competing in the USA Weightlifting Senior Nationals in July in Iowa. Abdullah was on the brink of qualifying for the American Open tournament last year when she was eliminated because long sleeves might prevent judges from seeing if her elbows were locked. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/186853.html :yay:
sarcastic Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 http://www.presstv.ir/detail/186853.html :yay: :yay: A serious question: Why only women have to wear hijab!!!!! Why can't men wear some form of it?:hmmm:
CSK Fan Posted July 2, 2011 Posted July 2, 2011 what if she indeed does lock her elbows while lifitng? Unfair advantage?
Mariyam Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 :yay: A serious question: Why only women have to wear hijab!!!!! Why can't men wear some form of it?:hmmm: Thats because men have to grow a long beard. That coupled with long hair acts as a de-facto niqab. In this way, money saved on the male niqab can be used for charity and general betterment of the society.
punjabi_khota Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I read it as "allow her to cover her hair on arm and legs" Couldn't stop rofling .
Texy Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 :yay: A serious question: Why only women have to wear hijab!!!!! Why can't men wear some form of it?:hmmm: duh, they don't want their wymenz to be buri nazaar by bad non muslim men ....didn't you read abt that Australian Imam sahib who announced that wymenz should cover up completely otherwise they are just asking to be raped
urbestfriend Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 One doubt, if wearing white scarf to cover head is enough to satisfy religion needs, why wear Burqua?
rahulrulezz Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 duh' date=' they don't want their wymenz to be buri nazaar by bad non muslim men ....didn't you read abt that Australian Imam sahib who announced that wymenz should cover up completely otherwise they are just asking to be raped[/quote'] Dude its part of the culture and religion... its individual choice and u shudnt make fun of someones dressing cuz of their culture and religion...Some muslim women in different parts of world wear full burqa like in S.Arabia, some wear jus hizab in countries like Iran while some wear casual jeans and tees like in Turkey or India, Pakistan... its like in India.. why do Hindu women have to wear duppata or do a ghungat...in areas like Rajashtan, Bihar, Hindu women tend to do Ghungat... they do it cuz its in their culture.. so need to bring imams and disrespect a religion
ganeshran Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I am yet to see the logic behind someone wearing a burqa. It is a garment which restricts an individual's freedom to communicate with the outside world. More than what we say verbally, it is non verbal forms like facial expression and body language which forms upto 80% of communication effectiveness. Citing the freedom to wear a burqa as part of individual's religious freedom is ironic because the garment is trampling on individual liberty in the first place.
Mariyam Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I am yet to see the logic behind someone wearing a burqa. It is a garment which restricts an individual's freedom to communicate with the outside world. More than what we say verbally, it is non verbal forms like facial expression and body language which forms upto 80% of communication effectiveness. The OP was talking about the Hijab, not the Burqa. Anyways, you can also argue, that the Burqa restricts non verbal communication, and hence enhances a persons' linguistic/verbal communication skills as she can convey her message only through that medium. :P Would you say the same about a woman in a ghonnghat? Or about men who wear caps/masks? What about Spiderman? Citing the freedom to wear a burqa as part of individual's religious freedom is ironic because the garment is trampling on individual liberty in the first place. It is their prerogative. Period. Unless the Burqa interferes in some work related function, and for stuff like passport photographs etc, why should anyone have an objection? A burqa is trampling on individual liberty, if any only if, it is forced on the woman. There are many cases where this is true, and there are cases where women wear the Burqa by their own free will. For eg, when Ataturk Kemal made Turkey a secular country, he forcibly banned the Burqa. Women were not allowed to wear the Burqa at work and on the streets ( for a short period of time). Is this not trampling upon individual liberty? Personally, I've interacted with women who got a chance to study/go out of home only because they wear the Burqa. If they didn't wear the Burqa, they wouldn't get the chance to go out. Either because of lack of self confidence or because they wouldn't be permitted. What do you do in such a case?The issue is complex. Also, Burqa is more a cultural thing than a purely religious one. Many scholars argue that a Hijab is sufficient. Many argue for the Burqa.etc My mom had an invite for a " Issues facing Muslim women" conference by Muslim Lawyers last year. Since she couldn't make it, she sent me. Needless to say, it was damn boring. Burqa and its impact were an issue discussed.The funny part is that, almost none of the women there wore a Burqa. The only way to reach a consensus is to hear their ( Burqa wearers) end of the story, which I'm afraid is not heard or in many cases not reachable. Me and you sitting here are pretty far away from the ground realities and the issues they face. :((
ravishingravi Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Would you say the same about a woman in a ghonnghat? Or about men who wear caps/masks? What about Spiderman? It is their prerogative. Period. Unless the Burqa interferes in some work related function, and for stuff like passport photographs etc, why should anyone have an objection? A burqa is trampling on individual liberty, if any only if, it is forced on the woman. There are many cases where this is true, and there are cases where women wear the Burqa by their own free will. For eg, when Ataturk Kemal made Turkey a secular country, he forcibly banned the Burqa. Women were not allowed to wear the Burqa at work and on the streets ( for a short period of time). Is this not trampling upon individual liberty? Personally, I've interacted with women who got a chance to study/go out of home only because they wear the Burqa. If they didn't wear the Burqa, they wouldn't get the chance to go out. Either because of lack of self confidence or because they wouldn't be permitted. What do you do in such a case?The issue is complex. Also, Burqa is more a cultural thing than a purely religious one. Many scholars argue that a Hijab is sufficient. Many argue for the Burqa.etc My mom had an invite for a " Issues facing Muslim women" conference by Muslim Lawyers last year. Since she couldn't make it, she sent me. Needless to say, it was damn boring. Burqa and its impact were an issue discussed.The funny part is that, almost none of the women there wore a Burqa. The only way to reach a consensus is to hear their ( Burqa wearers) end of the voice, which I'm afraid is not heard or in many cases not reachable. Me and you sitting here are pretty far away from the ground realities and the issues they face. :(( I would and do. In last few years, I have across many Marwari highly educated families who put the condition for girls not to work and wear ghoonghat at home. I find it pathetic. As for your actual argument on Burqa, while I completely believe it as symbolic oppression and suppression of women and while I think it should have no place in modern society, you know what, I am against the State ban. As weird as it sounds. I am still cool with Hijab, relatively speaking. I am not sure whether you were trolling but a Burqa is definitely an obstruction in communication. I guess that is the objective in some ways. But there is really no way of knowing how much of this practise is forced and how much is voluntary.
akshayxyz Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 what if she indeed does lock her elbows while lifitng? Unfair advantage? AFAIK - in weightlifting - locking of arms and knees is mandatory (to complete the lift) and not illegal.
ravishingravi Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Dude its part of the culture and religion... its individual choice and u shudnt make fun of someones dressing cuz of their culture and religion...Some muslim women in different parts of world wear full burqa like in S.Arabia' date=' some wear jus hizab in countries like Iran while some wear casual jeans and tees like in Turkey or India, Pakistan... its like in India.. why do Hindu women have to wear duppata or do a ghungat...in areas like Rajashtan, Bihar, Hindu women tend to do Ghungat... they do it cuz its in their culture.. so need to bring imams and disrespect a religion[/quote'] By the same token, not every action and practise needs to be respected because it is culture and tradition and is accepted. There is honour killing and stoning of women happening in name of religion, culture and tradition. Considering the kind of leash women are under in these countries, I dare say including mine, I wonder how much of it is individual choice. Ofcourse these questions are sometimes uncomfortable but need to be asked.
EnterTheVoid Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 You'd be hard pressed to find a western educated professional covered head to toe in a Burqa. Hijab, definitely. Burqa, very rarely -- well, in Australia, at least.
asterix Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I think "Ghunghat" is more of a Social "requirement" in certain sctions/communities..It's not a religious requirement..AFAIK I'm not aware if wearing Ghunghat is made mandatory in any religious scrptures...Although I'm aware that "covering of head" in required in certain temples and almost all Gurudwaras for both men and women.. I remember during my trip to Rameshwarm, it was mandatory for men to take a bath (in the sea) and enter the temple only wearing lungi/dhoti..This is mandatory in various other South Indian temples..
suraj Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 I want to start a religion that makes it mandatory for Rakhi Sawant to wear a burqa
suraj Posted July 3, 2011 Posted July 3, 2011 Wow she's pretty Me likey:two_thumbs_up::two_thumbs_up:
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