Crookbond Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Care to explain why? Priyanka's BS acting or a very ordinary bollywood story? What aspect of the movie (Barfi) other than its cinematography deserves to be picked over GOW? Women love deaf & mute mean so that they can blabber around their husbands to death. Isn't that a good enough reason for Barfi to be better than GOW? :dontknow:
KhanSaab Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I would love to travel to Bihar some day. No need. Bihar will eventually travel to wherever you are.
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2012 Author Posted October 7, 2012 Yes. Not that Barfi is ground breaking cinema, but of the two it is the better film. What's all this business about representing India? A film is supposed to represent what a director wants it to represent. Its a view through the director's glasses. A movie that is sent to the Oscars from India doesn't have to 'represent' India, it only has to be a good movie. Forest Gump won a couple of Oscars. Does Forest Gump (the character) represent America? :P To answer your question, I've been to UP quite a few times. Mainly as a tourist and on one occasion to attend a wedding. I've never seen anything remotely GOW-like. Yes, there were a lot of touts and cheats, but they were all very polite. I would love to travel to Bihar some day. No. You are wrong. It is nominated in foreign film category and mostly they prefer films which show the culture, traditions, behavior of people of the related country. It is rarely related to quality of a film. Example Slumdog Millionaire even if it was not an Indian entry.
DomainK Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 No need. Bihar will eventually travel to wherever you are. Bihar has already traveled to Mumbai in large numbers. The inside of a cab is in Mumbai is Bihar, the gate to every building is Bihar, half of those who land in Mumbai to become a hero are Biharis.
Sidhoni Posted October 15, 2012 Posted October 15, 2012 Finally watched it yesterday! Fabulous! :hatsoff:
gaurav92 Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Kahaani or even Paan Singh Tomar would have been better tan this ****. :headshake:
DomainK Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Too many copied scenes in Barfi for it to win any international award of any value. Any critic would be put off watching the scene they so shamelessly copied from The Notebook.
KhanSaab Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Too many copied scenes in Barfi for it to win any international award of any value. Any critic would be put off watching the scene they so shamelessly copied from The Notebook. You sir are a brave soul. Not just watching The Notebook but admitting to it.
Clarke Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Kahaani or even Paan Singh Tomar would have been better tan this ****. :headshake: :nice:
Sooda Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 You sir are a brave soul. Not just watching The Notebook but admitting to it. Haha! I'll admit to it too. My wifes choice :P
Nova Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I have watched the Notebook all by myself and I liked it. Why can't guys watch such movies? :dontknow:
DomainK Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I have watched the Notebook all by myself and I liked it. Why can't guys watch such movies? :dontknow: No idea. By the same twisted definition of masculinity: : "mard ko dard nahi hota". Where as, in truth, if hit in the right place, "mard ko bahat dard hota hai".
coffee_rules Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Same Barfi scene. Both copied from the English Original.
Lurker Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 What's all this business about representing India? A film is supposed to represent what a director wants it to represent. Its a view through the director's glasses. A movie that is sent to the Oscars from India doesn't have to 'represent' India, it only has to be a good movie. You contradict yourself in that one paragraph. You claim that a movie is supposed to be represent what a director wants it to represent. I completely agree. And so does Anurag Kashyap. He is on record how he wanted to make a movie about Bihar, Bihar mafia, the lingo used is what is observed in Bihar and also in his hometown where he was growing up, the shooting is done in some parts of his own house, the gaalis that are used are part of social fabric of the region and the "moral brigade" is after this very social fabric. Then you make a volte face saying moving should be good. Good for who? Clearly it is great for me. Not so good for you perhaps. But that does not make it a good or bad movie, does it? It is a Directors movie and it is right to spill abuse every 2 seconds if he like. Not to put you in a spot Mariyam, but is your assertion because you are a Hindi movie fan? Or someone who is not aware of the Bihari lingo? Or a female?? I ask you not to berate you, but this is something I observed growing up too. Between guys there is a certain verncular followed. Me and Desi and Shwetabh will perhaps converse in a certain way if we meet. Then a girl walks in and suddenly we are supposed to watch our language. Why is that??
The Outsider Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 ^ More than gender it's the level of comfort you share with the person. I have a few friends (girls) with him I can do the MC/BC kind of chit chat. It's much fewer than the number of male friends with whom I can talk that way, but it's not an unheard of thing. Also, girls in general tend to use curse words less than guys even among themselves so it's much more than guys behaving in a certain way in front of girls.
Lurker Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 ^ More than gender it's the level of comfort you share with the person. I have a few friends (girls) with him I can do the MC/BC kind of chit chat. It's much fewer than the number of male friends with whom I can talk that way, but it's not an unheard of thing. Also, girls in general tend to use curse words less than guys even among themselves so it's much more than guys behaving in a certain way in front of girls. Yes of course. But it is with gender where it gets tricky. You can make the same statement infront of a guy and if he is not comfortable he will walk away or beat you up. With a female it can range from being judged as a creepy guy to downright sexual harassment filing.
Mariyam Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 You contradict yourself in that one paragraph. You claim that a movie is supposed to be represent what a director wants it to represent. I completely agree. And so does Anurag Kashyap. He is on record how he wanted to make a movie about Bihar, Bihar mafia, the lingo used is what is observed in Bihar and also in his hometown where he was growing up, the shooting is done in some parts of his own house, the gaalis that are used are part of social fabric of the region and the "moral brigade" is after this very social fabric. Then you make a volte face saying moving should be good. Good for who? Clearly it is great for me. Not so good for you perhaps. But that does not make it a good or bad movie, does it? It is a Directors movie and it is right to spill abuse every 2 seconds if he like. Obscenities, as they say, are the last refuge of the inarticulate %$#*&^%$@*! I can't talk on behalf of others, but obscenities whether in movies or otherwise are a complete put off. And contrary to what you say, the continuous string of obscenities in the movie for almost everything- before a murder scene or even before something as menial as buying eggs makes the characters look larger than life and doesn't add any credibility to the plot. Or so I feel. Tapori Bambaiyya on the other has always been portrayed in a very alluring way in Bollywood. A movie character who speaks tapori will eventually endear himself to you. His mannerisms maybe crass, but he would come across as someone with a heart. The characters in GoW don't really have anything going on for them. Another grouse that I had with the movie is the absolute and wrong generalizations: Qureshi's are butchers? That is as random as saying all those with the surname Agarkar are trundlers. Generally speaking too, though I'm a total Bollywood girl, I've been less than happy with the caricature like portrayal of Muslims in Bollywood. Either Muslims are: the honest patriotic cop, a side kick introduced for comic relief, a youth gone astray into the paths of terror or the portrayal is like how it is in Wasseypur. I've yet to come across a regular Bollywood KJO/Sooraj Barjatya/YRF movie, with leading Muslim characters. We should have some kind of a reservation system in Bollywood. :protest: Not to put you in a spot Mariyam' date=' but is your assertion because you are a Hindi movie fan? Or someone who is not aware of the Bihari lingo? Or a female?? I ask you not to berate you, but this is something I observed growing up too. Between guys there is a certain verncular followed. Me and Desi and Shwetabh will perhaps converse in a certain way if we meet. Then a girl walks in and suddenly we are supposed to watch our language. Why is that??[/quote'] I too would go with what Shwetabh said re:level of comfort. You'd be hard pressed to find girls who bond better because they swear each other. It doesn't work that way. Girls, if I can generalize, leave their abusing only to times when they are extremely angry. I don't think I'd ever hear a girl talk to her peer: O #$$%%&^ tune Sachin ke batting dekhi kal. South Africa ki use %&& $%#^%^%&. other girl: Woh sab bhool ja %$#^*%$, kal accounts ka exam hai. kuch padha hai tune? It is such shallow, pointless and altogether demeaning talk which only the male of the species are capable of. :P
nikred Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 Generally speaking too, though I'm a total Bollywood girl, I've been less than happy with the caricature like portrayal of Muslims in Bollywood. Either Muslims are: the honest patriotic cop, a side kick introduced for comic relief, a youth gone astray into the paths of terror or the portrayal is like how it is in Wasseypur. I've yet to come across a regular Bollywood KJO/Sooraj Barjatya/YRF movie, with leading Muslim characters. We should have some kind of a reservation system in Bollywood. :protest: I find the same with portrayal of telangana people in telugu movies. Either the charectar is a goon, a heroes side kick introduced for comic relief or a villains side kick introduced for comic relief. The dialect itself is used for comie relief(similar to hyderabadi urdu). :((
DomainK Posted February 8, 2013 Posted February 8, 2013 I've yet to come across a regular Bollywood KJO/Sooraj Barjatya/YRF movie' date=' with leading Muslim characters. We should have some kind of a reservation system in Bollywood. [/quote'] Ironically, however, most such characters have been played by Muslim actors in recent past.
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