Yantra Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Umesh always was picked up from domestics. Dravid and Laxman were impressed with him in one of the duleep matches and since then his name started doing rounds. That is correct but that was only half a season or so what I meant was they should be picked after playing 2-3 seasons atleast, they can also do well if they play county cricket few seasons. look most of this bowlers nowadays comes from smaller center and does not have cricketing culter very few from their state have played at the international level hence they are very raw. Link to comment
jhakati Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Umesh always was picked up from domestics. Dravid and Laxman were impressed with him in one of the duleep matches and since then his name started doing rounds. That is correct but that was only half a season or so what I meant was they should be picked after playing 2-3 seasons atleast, they can also do well if they play county cricket few seasons. look most of this bowlers nowadays comes from smaller center and does not have cricketing culter very few from their state have played at the international level hence they are very raw. Exactly, he needs to go back to Domestic for 2-3 seasons at least. Link to comment
fineleg Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 International bowler? This? 1 over - 17 runs ! 12.6 Yadav to Smith, FOUR, refuses to learn, bangs it in short without much venom, arrives leg sidish to Smith and he wallops it behind square, Australian lead racing towards 200 12.5 Yadav to Smith, no run, jumps to off stump and plays back a good length ball on off 12.4 Yadav to Smith, FOUR, short again, and Smith has so much time to launch another pull way in front of square 12.3 Yadav to Smith, no run, short of a good length punched to point 12.2 Yadav to Smith, no run, good length outside off stump, he moves across in the crease to defend 12.2 Yadav to Smith, (no ball) FOUR, short and wide outside off now, Smith instantly lashes it behind point, that is a huge no ball too 12.1 Yadav to Smith, FOUR, starts leg sidish from short of a good length, and Smith moves across to tickle it fine Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Dhoni is forcing him to bowl down leg side :dontknow: sscomp32 1 Link to comment
zep1706 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 He is in the world cup squad. :hysterical: Link to comment
jhakati Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Damn moron 17 in his first over, shameful. Link to comment
jhakati Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 He is in the world cup squad. :hysterical: Are you serious? Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Are you serious? :giggle: Yes Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Umesh always was picked up from domestics. Dravid and Laxman were impressed with him in one of the duleep matches and since then his name started doing rounds. That is correct but that was only half a season or so what I meant was they should be picked after playing 2-3 seasons atleast, they can also do well if they play county cricket few seasons. look most of this bowlers nowadays comes from smaller center and does not have cricketing culter very few from their state have played at the international level hence they are very raw. He played his first test in 2011. By that time, he had played 3 FC seasons taking wickets at an average of 25. it is not about FC. Pankaj Singh has 300 FC wickets. He didnt bowl anything great. Australian bowlers like Starc, Hazlewood, Pattinson, Cummins have had worse FC stats than our bowlers wen they debuted but they still bowl so well. Why? It is not just about FC stats but knowing where to bowl and believing in your ability and able to execute it. Patience is as big a key for bowlers as batsmen. They dont have that. They are Rohit Sharma of bowlers. Umesh has 7 5-fers in FC cricket averaging about 25 and he mostly plays on flat pitch of Nagpur, not on seaming tracks like most other pacers like Sandeep and Dhawan. Shami has 2 10-fers, 2 5-fers and 6 4-fers in FC cricket averaging around 25. Aaron also averaged 20 last season, first time he played a full FC season. Guess how many 5-fers James Pattinson, Cummin and Hazlewood have had in FC cricket before they made their debut? Pattnson and Cummins had none. Hazlewood had 1 5-fer, 3 4-fer. Starc has 2 5-fers in 30 FC matches. It is not about how successful you are in FC cricket. Our bowlers have been far more successful in FC cricket than these 4 young Aussie pacers, but still they bowl better than ours. There is lot more to it than just FC stats. Link to comment
Vijy Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Fine pefrormance from Yadav today; contributed a great deal to the Oz cause. Link to comment
bowl_out Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Serious, rare talent... I doubt even I'll go for 15 an over if I bowl in a Test match in Sydney Link to comment
Lannister Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Besides Dhoni he's one more illiterate village idiot who seems to have no clue on what's going on in the field. Link to comment
BlueBee Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I feel like I can bowl better than this hack. Link to comment
The Realist Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Frankly, Umesh has been a serious let down for India in this series down under. Unable to control his line and length, he has seemed pedestrian and out of sorts. With all to play for to build his own reputation, he has conceded close to six an over in most spells and has consistently made it easy for the Australians giving away easy runs. The question is why? Why is it that Umesh is going the Munaf Patel, Irfan Pathan route? Why is it that Indian fast bowlers who come with a lot of promise fritter away within a very short span of time? Why is it that after four years in international cricket which should have seen him mature into a top fast bowler, Umesh continues to struggle each time the captain throws the ball to him? A comparison with Josh Hazlewood and the point becomes clear. With far less experience, Hazlewood has done one thing consistently right through the series - pitch the ball in one particular area. His economy rate is proof of the effort put in by the youngster. If he can, why can't Umesh? With all the talent and with the ability to bowl real quick, why is it that Umesh Yadav is on the path of self destruction? Boria Majumdar on Cricbuzz Link to comment
Sachinism Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That's the end of his career for a little while. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It is all technical. He started so well on his come back in SL series on mostly flat tracks, he bowled really well, swung the ball, didnt concede too many runs, at least in first 4 ODIs but from 5th ODI onwards he went back to his old action which was leading to his downfall before and we are seeing the same fate again. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 He played his first test in 2011. By that time, he had played 3 FC seasons taking wickets at an average of 25. it is not about FC. Pankaj Singh has 300 FC wickets. He didnt bowl anything great. Australian bowlers like Starc, Hazlewood, Pattinson, Cummins have had worse FC stats than our bowlers wen they debuted but they still bowl so well. Why? It is not just about FC stats but knowing where to bowl and believing in your ability and able to execute it. Patience is as big a key for bowlers as batsmen. They dont have that. They are Rohit Sharma of bowlers. Umesh has 7 5-fers in FC cricket averaging about 25 and he mostly plays on flat pitch of Nagpur, not on seaming tracks like most other pacers like Sandeep and Dhawan. Shami has 2 10-fers, 2 5-fers and 6 4-fers in FC cricket averaging around 25. Aaron also averaged 20 last season, first time he played a full FC season. Guess how many 5-fers James Pattinson, Cummin and Hazlewood have had in FC cricket before they made their debut? Pattnson and Cummins had none. Hazlewood had 1 5-fer, 3 4-fer. Starc has 2 5-fers in 30 FC matches. It is not about how successful you are in FC cricket. Our bowlers have been far more successful in FC cricket than these 4 young Aussie pacers, but still they bowl better than ours. There is lot more to it than just FC stats. Very interesting post What do you think is going wrong with our young pacers ? I am unable to find any plausible solution. Can it be lack of basic education because of which they cannot adapt to any challenging or adverse conditions ? Or know what is good for them. Link to comment
Sid Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That's the end of his career for a little while. That would be harsh Link to comment
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