Is Pietersen the best England batsmen ever??

[indiaregulator]

Has scored 21 centuries. Out of the 21 centuries: 10 have been when the team has won. 10 have been when the team has drawn. 1 has been when the team lost. Is that the best ratio of any modern player? :omg:

[vvvslaxman]

Kallis gotta be somewhere there with more centuries / Punter, Graeme smith.

[Number]

Check RD's centuries before England tour.

[Trichromatic]

Gilchrist scored 14 in won matches and 1 in lost matches.

[The Outsider]

Having 21 centuries in 88 tests is a mediocre ratio to being with compared to world class batsmen like Tendulkar.

[Trichromatic]

Having 21 centuries in 88 tests is a mediocre ratio to being with compared to world class batsmen like Tendulkar.

Outy trolling. :phehehe:

[CSK Fan]

Can you differentiate how many were becuase of his agressive batting alone and how many where becuase of great bolwing/batting performances by his team members? Or do you mean to say KP took 20 wickets in those 10 matches which England won and score over 500 runs in each innings alone in the matches which were drawn?

[Trichromatic]

Can you differentiate how many were becuase of his agressive batting alone and how many where becuase of great bolwing/batting performances by his team members? Or do you mean to say KP took 20 wickets in those 10 matches which England won and score over 500 runs in each innings alone in the matches which were drawn?

and why this question now?

[velu]

and why this question now?

check MTCs signature :phehehe: MTC knows who will be compared with KP next :winky:

[ravishingravi]

check MTCs signature :phehehe: MTC knows who will be compared with KP next :winky:

:winky:

[The Outsider]

Outy trolling. :phehehe:

Not trolling. By the logic of OP Gillespie is the greatest matchwinner.

[Trichromatic]

Not trolling. By the logic of OP Gillespie is the greatest matchwinner.

Where did he say that one with best ratio is greatest matchwinner? :blink:

[The Outsider]

Where did he say that one with best ratio is greatest matchwinner? :blink:

What exactly did he say then? Maybe my little grey cells are not functioning properly, but from what I gathered in the OP there was a correlation being made in being a match winner and percentage of hundreds scored in wins and draws.

[Clarke]

Did this concept of matchwinner exist before the internet forums came into existence ? I have heard a few commentators/experts talk about 'big game player' but simply do not recall the likes of Henry Blofeld or Richie Benaud announce player xyz is a matchwinner. Sanjay or Ramiz might have, but they're hardly worth listening.

[Crookbond]

^ Interesting point. I heard this around Chennai 1998 (THAT test :secret: ) for the first time.

[Zap_Brannigan]

In the 25 matches England has lost with KP playing, he averages 29 with just 1 100. Maybe if he scored better in those games, England might have not lost. So he is a big match loser.

[Trichromatic]

In the 25 matches England has lost with KP playing' date=' he averages 29 with just 1 100. Maybe if he scored better in those games, England might have not lost. So he is a big match loser.[/quote'] Probably England were destined to lose 45 matches, but KP scored in 20 of those and saved the matches for them. :P

[maverick451]

Since Kp retired from Limited overs cricket weve won every game :two_thumbs_up:

[Zap_Brannigan]

Probably England were destined to lose 45 matches' date=' but KP scored in 20 of those and saved the matches for them. :P[/quote'] I am pretty sure they were to win 55 but they lost 25 of those thanks to KPs poor batting

[Lurker]

Has scored 21 centuries. Out of the 21 centuries: 10 have been when the team has won. 10 have been when the team has drawn. 1 has been when the team lost. Is that the best ratio of any modern player? :omg:

And back home we have had Gundappa Vishwanath 14 100s 4 in matches won 10 in matches drawn :cheer: