Clarke Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 More than them' date=' I see us facing fitness issues. We play non stop from now on, next test and 2 t20s vs Kiwis, then the world t20, then the CLt20 and 4 tests vs Eng. I don't have any hopes of Sehwag and Zaheer being fit for all 4 tests vs England. Don't know why they have picked Zaheer for the t20 squad.[/quote'] We just got started, they've been playing non stop since middle of May and other than CLT20 continue to do so.
Vilander Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 @ShebbySB : My post had nothing to do with the recent results in matches between SL and Ind' date='did they, mate? So what's with all the hate against SL? Yeah...,our guys have not played good cricket against Ind...Some say they are [b']deliberately under performing.Anyway ,I'm just saying that if sporting wickets are provided, India will go down in the test series vs. ENG... Substantiate this, else be prepared to get abused by some icf'rs. Dont just speak out of your ****, if you claim there is a deliberate under performance from SL then you are accusing Indian and SL teams and BCCI and Srilankan board of aiding and arranging match fixing.
Vilander Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 Not sure how cocky some supporters are here. Sure we have an upper hand given the conditions but this team will ave two young batsman. Our no 6 , Raina has to be replaced. We don't have a great spin attack. English bowlers will enjoy the reverse swing. To be honest, I have a feeling we might have the worst summer at home. :nervous:
maverick451 Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 Im an England supporter and even I dont think we will win in India, the conditions are completly foreign to our players, we might aswell be playing beach cricket. England players ARE decent players of spin in English conditions, look how well we played Narine etc but away from home no way. Our pace attack did brilliantly in UAE and Sri Lanka but they look tired now and have gone of the boil a bit. The only chance we have it to hope its a road of a pitch, bat first and bat long and then hope the pitch crumbles.
Trichromatic Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 Im an England supporter and even I dont think we will win in India, the conditions are completly foreign to our players, we might aswell be playing beach cricket. England players ARE decent players of spin in English conditions, look how well we played Narine etc but away from home no way. Our pace attack did brilliantly in UAE and Sri Lanka but they look tired now and have gone of the boil a bit. The only chance we have it to hope its a road of a pitch, bat first and bat long and then hope the pitch crumbles. Even when you'll face probably weakest Indian team in long time with strongest English team?
maverick451 Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 I think England would need about 3 months of preparation in the sub continent to have a chance. Cook and Trott would need to fire and they have been really poor this year so far.
ravishingravi Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 I think Indians are being too cocky. There is hardly anything in this Indian side to fear. Gambhir ;- will be worked out by Finn. Sehwag :- even as FTB will at best be a nuisance value Pujara :- prospect but newo the ame Tendulkar :- lesser said the better Kohli :- great talent but again new to test cricket No 6 :- don't know. Dhoni :- woeful in test cricket Zaheer :- fitness is a major issue Yadav :- I have high hopes from him. Ashwin :- will not send shivers down any decent barsman's spine Ojha :- good challenge in Indian conditions
Yoda-esque Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 I think Indians are being too cocky. There is hardly anything in this Indian side to fear. Gambhir ;- will be worked out by Finn. Sehwag :- even as FTB will at best be a nuisance value Pujara :- prospect but newo the ame Tendulkar :- lesser said the better Kohli :- great talent but again new to test cricket No 6 :- don't know. Dhoni :- woeful in test cricket Zaheer :- fitness is a major issue Yadav :- I have high hopes from him. Ashwin :- will not send shivers down any decent barsman's spine Ojha :- good challenge in Indian conditions Now do the same for England under these conditions and you'll see the difference :giggle: England are clearly the "worse" team.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 I think Indians are being too cocky. There is hardly anything in this Indian side to fear. Gambhir ;- will be worked out by Finn. Sehwag :- even as FTB will at best be a nuisance value Pujara :- prospect but newo the ame Tendulkar :- lesser said the better Kohli :- great talent but again new to test cricket No 6 :- don't know. Dhoni :- woeful in test cricket Zaheer :- fitness is a major issue Yadav :- I have high hopes from him. Ashwin :- will not send shivers down any decent barsman's spine Ojha :- good challenge in Indian conditions This makes sense for away but not for home. For example Dhoni is not "woeful" at home and averages 38 in Tests at no. 7 :facepalm:
J P K Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 This makes sense for away but not for home. For example Dhoni is not "woeful" at home and averages 38 in Tests at no. 7 :facepalm: avgs 43 @ home
ravishingravi Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Now do the same for England under these conditions and you'll see the difference :giggle: England are clearly the "worse" team. I agree. But they have played together as. Unit. They have come to India and faced tougher teams in the past. Let me make it clear. India are Easily favourites. But if I were England I would fancy my chances against this Indian side.
Ultimate_Game Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 avgs 43 @ home Exactly. A no. 7 averaging 43 is not "woeful" and I'm sure Sehwag at home will be more than nuisance :giggle:
Ultimate_Game Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 I agree. But they have played together as. Unit. They have come to India and faced tougher teams in the past. Let me make it clear. India are Easily favourites. But if I were England I would fancy my chances against this Indian side. If I'm this English side I would be looking for ways to get out with a drawn series at max. The team which lost to Pakis 0-3 can't be that good.
J P K Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 Exactly. A no. 7 averaging 43 is not "woeful" and I'm sure Sehwag at home will be more than nuisance :giggle: u will be shocked check dhoni`s avgs as captain @home :cantstop: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?captain=1;class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=1;orderby=runs;team=6;template=results;type=batting
Ultimate_Game Posted August 26, 2012 Posted August 26, 2012 u will be shocked check dhoni`s avgs as captain @home :cantstop: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?captain=1;class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=1;orderby=runs;team=6;template=results;type=batting Dhoni :yay:
ShebbySB Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 What we need is a decent no.6 for the England series.Personally I'll play Dhoni at 6, Irfan at 7 & Ashwin at 8.Zaheer & Ojha will also be there.We should play 3 spinners against Poms.So it'll be Chawla or Bhajji.Both can bat & will bat at no.9.I'm a huge fan of Umesh & he'll be in the squad but he should only play if the pitch has something to offer which I doubt as Dhoni & co. will go for rank turners to win it 4-0 & take revenge.
ravishingravi Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 What we need is a decent no.6 for the England series.Personally I'll play Dhoni at 6, Irfan at 7 & Ashwin at 8.Zaheer & Ojha will also be there.We should play 3 spinners against Poms.So it'll be Chawla or Bhajji.Both can bat & will bat at no.9.I'm a huge fan of Umesh & he'll be in the squad but he should only play if the pitch has something to offer which I doubt as Dhoni & co. will go for rank turners to win it 4-0 & take revenge. Bang on
Crookbond Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 What we need is a decent no.6 for the England series.Personally I'll play Dhoni at 6, Irfan at 7 & Ashwin at 8.Zaheer & Ojha will also be there.We should play 3 spinners against Poms.So it'll be Chawla or Bhajji.Both can bat & will bat at no.9.I'm a huge fan of Umesh & he'll be in the squad but he should only play if the pitch has something to offer which I doubt as Dhoni & co. will go for rank turners to win it 4-0 & take revenge. What can Irfan do on spinning wickets man? :dontknow: This unless you underestimate and consider him as a spinner
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