US consulate in Chennai attacked, riots in Ghaziabad

[asterix]

The other day, the Australian government said they were going to deport those engaged in the extremist riots if they had to. Two days later, the mofos started turning themselves in at the police stations claiming it was all a misunderstanding, that they don't understand the gravity of their actions, they won't do it again blah blah blah :hysterical:

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[Texy]

Sean Smith the IT expert who died along with the ambassador was online when he sent this message to game room chat: Online nick: Vile_rat (12:54:09 PM) vile_rat: assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures [vile_rat 9/11/12 2:40 PM]: F..U.C.K [vile_rat 9/11/12 2:40 PM]: gunfire One can clearly see from the video & Sean Smith's last words..the guards were IN on this. Someone(presumably the guards) flashed light at the end of the video right before the attack happened.

[Laaloo]

The other day, the Australian government said they were going to deport those engaged in the extremist riots if they had to. Two days later, the mofos started turning themselves in at the police stations claiming it was all a misunderstanding, that they don't understand the gravity of their actions, they won't do it again blah blah blah :hysterical:

lol

[Crookbond]

From 'Desert Warrior' to 'Innocence of Muslims,' a controversial YouTube video is both catalyst and scapegoat http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/17/3346428/innocence-of-muslims-protests

In early July, a YouTube user known as "Sam Bacile" posted a trailer for Innocence of Muslims, a vicious spoof of the Prophet Muhammad. The fourteen-minute video wasn’t a particularly good advertisement for anything — in fact, it failed to mention the title of the film. And for some time, it was all but ignored. Then, in September, dubbed Arabic versions began to appear in the Egyptian media. Protests broke out in several countries, denouncing both the video and the Pope’s upcoming visit to Lebanon. And in Benghazi, Libya, armed attackers set fire to the US Consulate, killing US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others. YouTube said the video was 'clearly within our guidelines,' but it took the rare step of blocking it in Egypt and LibyaThe response was sudden. YouTube said the video was "clearly within our guidelines," but it took the rare step of blocking it first in Egypt and Libya, then India, Indonesia, and other countries, sometimes after legal threats. YouTube itself was banned in some countries, most recently Pakistan. Although still available elsewhere, the English-language version was reposted several times with information about the protests or a simple "thumbs up for free speech." The White House asked YouTube if it would review the video and remove it if necessary. Outlets from The Wall Street Journal to Gawker tried to dig up information about Bacile, a mysterious figure who turned out to be Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a Coptic Christian on parole for bank fraud. While the video is certainly drawing ire, it’s not clear that protests provided more than cover for the attack that killed Ambassador Stevens. Unnamed US officials have told CNN the Consulate faced a "clearly planned military-type attack," and that "the video or 9/11 made a handy excuse." It’s also been suggested that the attackers used these protests as a diversion. Whatever happened, we’re left with the question of how a poorly produced YouTube video can spark global controversy and be credited with causing the death of a US official. The trailer for Innocence of Muslims is on par with a lesser Ed Wood film, its cast solemnly debating sexual ethics in face paint and pasted-on beards. Outdoor scenes were clearly shot in front of a green screen, making actors appear to float above stock footage of a desert. If anything, though, the poor quality makes it more effective propaganda. It may not be revealing, thought-provoking, or competent, but Innocence of Muslims is indubitably insulting, depicting Muhammad as a hypocritical and bloodthirsty philanderer in a truly terrible costume. Since the trailer gained infamy, it’s become evident that almost no one involved knew it was meant to be about Islam. Casting calls show that it was described during filming as a period piece called Desert Warrior, with Muhammad given the name of "Master George." In the trailer, he’s usually referred to as "Master," and any direct references to Islam are clumsily dubbed in after the fact. It’s easy to believe the actors when they say they were misled. At the same time, the undubbed parts of Innocence of Muslims wouldn’t be nearly as effective if they didn’t play off existing fears and beliefs about Islam, including the frequently repeated claim that the Prophet molested children. The film fits into a long narrative about protests over the depiction of Muhammad. But unlike The Satanic Verses, which has also drawn criticism from Muslims, there’s no larger message or artistic flourish behind the trailer. And unlike the famous Danish political cartoons from 2005, Innocence of Muslims wasn’t professionally published or circulated much outside YouTube. Instead, it’s a disposable piece of internet trolling, created for the sole purpose of generating outrage. It’s just gained an extraordinarily wide audience. Any reference to Islam is dubbed in, but the whole trailer plays on common fears and stereotypesGiven how unsympathetic Bacile / Nakoula is, it’s become easy to blame Innocence of Muslims for tension that may have already been building. When White House Press Secretary Jay Carney pushed for the video to be taken down, he told The Washington Post that "this is not a case of protest directed at the United States writ large or at US policy." Recent events, he said, were "in response to a video, a film, that we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting." One YouTube user who re-posted the film described it as the movie "that caused Muslims to kill United States ambassador, J Christopher Stevens," succinctly summing up popular perception. As others have pointed out, it's also simplistic. Coptic Christians like Nakoula have a tense relationship with Muslims in Egypt, and they've faced violence before. Both Egypt and Libya are still in the midst of major political transitions. And rising food prices could be contributing to unrest worldwide. "This is not a case of protest directed at the United States writ large or at US policy." In some ways, Innocence of Muslims is the culmination of the internet’s role as a great leveler. YouTube can place tiny, self-published projects on equal footing with those made by traditional media outlets, and an anonymous or pseudonymous troll can claim to have stolen data from the FBI or hold Mitt Romney’s tax returns hostage. But the novelty and reach of online culture can also make it easy to exaggerate its importance, something that’s seen both in protesters’ insistence that the trailer is somehow condoned by the US and in the belief that Innocence of Muslims caused an attack that was likely planned for months. Even if YouTube bans Sam Bacile and his trailer, the numerous repostings, dubbed versions, and translations highlight the near impossibility of silencing offensive material once it has been released into the remix culture of the web. And the violence that followed is a reminder of how powerful online video can be at promoting an idea... or inciting populist outrage.

I remember having said something on the similar lines when there were clear rumors posted in the NE exile from Bangalore thread. There is no doubt that Internet can be used to outrage and incite people and we need to be more careful with our choice of words/actions even if it is the WWW.

[Crookbond]

From 'Desert Warrior' to 'Innocence of Muslims,' a controversial YouTube video is both catalyst and scapegoat http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/17/3346428/innocence-of-muslims-protests

In early July, a YouTube user known as "Sam Bacile" posted a trailer for Innocence of Muslims, a vicious spoof of the Prophet Muhammad. The fourteen-minute video wasnÃÕ a particularly good advertisement for anything in fact, it failed to mention the title of the film. And for some time, it was all but ignored. Then, in September, dubbed Arabic versions began to appear in the Egyptian media. Protests broke out in several countries, denouncing both the video and the PopeÃÔ upcoming visit to Lebanon. And in Benghazi, Libya, armed attackers set fire to the US Consulate, killing US Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others. YouTube said the video was 'clearly within our guidelines,' but it took the rare step of blocking it in Egypt and LibyaThe response was sudden. YouTube said the video was "clearly within our guidelines," but it took the rare step of blocking it first in Egypt and Libya, then India, Indonesia, and other countries, sometimes after legal threats. YouTube itself was banned in some countries, most recently Pakistan. Although still available elsewhere, the English-language version was reposted several times with information about the protests or a simple "thumbs up for free speech." The White House asked YouTube if it would review the video and remove it if necessary. Outlets from The Wall Street Journal to Gawker tried to dig up information about Bacile, a mysterious figure who turned out to be Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a Coptic Christian on parole for bank fraud. While the video is certainly drawing ire, itÃÔ not clear that protests provided more than cover for the attack that killed Ambassador Stevens. Unnamed US officials have told CNN the Consulate faced a "clearly planned military-type attack," and that "the video or 9/11 made a handy excuse." ItÃÔ also been suggested that the attackers used these protests as a diversion. Whatever happened, weÃÓe left with the question of how a poorly produced YouTube video can spark global controversy and be credited with causing the death of a US official. The trailer for Innocence of Muslims is on par with a lesser Ed Wood film, its cast solemnly debating sexual ethics in face paint and pasted-on beards. Outdoor scenes were clearly shot in front of a green screen, making actors appear to float above stock footage of a desert. If anything, though, the poor quality makes it more effective propaganda. It may not be revealing, thought-provoking, or competent, but Innocence of Muslims is indubitably insulting, depicting Muhammad as a hypocritical and bloodthirsty philanderer in a truly terrible costume. Since the trailer gained infamy, itÃÔ become evident that almost no one involved knew it was meant to be about Islam. Casting calls show that it was described during filming as a period piece called Desert Warrior, with Muhammad given the name of "Master George." In the trailer, heÃÔ usually referred to as "Master," and any direct references to Islam are clumsily dubbed in after the fact. ItÃÔ easy to believe the actors when they say they were misled. At the same time, the undubbed parts of Innocence of Muslims wouldnÃÕ be nearly as effective if they didnÃÕ play off existing fears and beliefs about Islam, including the frequently repeated claim that the Prophet molested children. The film fits into a long narrative about protests over the depiction of Muhammad. But unlike The Satanic Verses, which has also drawn criticism from Muslims, thereÃÔ no larger message or artistic flourish behind the trailer. And unlike the famous Danish political cartoons from 2005, Innocence of Muslims wasnÃÕ professionally published or circulated much outside YouTube. Instead, itÃÔ a disposable piece of internet trolling, created for the sole purpose of generating outrage. ItÃÔ just gained an extraordinarily wide audience. Any reference to Islam is dubbed in, but the whole trailer plays on common fears and stereotypesGiven how unsympathetic Bacile / Nakoula is, itÃÔ become easy to blame Innocence of Muslims for tension that may have already been building. When White House Press Secretary Jay Carney pushed for the video to be taken down, he told The Washington Post that "this is not a case of protest directed at the United States writ large or at US policy." Recent events, he said, were "in response to a video, a film, that we have judged to be reprehensible and disgusting." One YouTube user who re-posted the film described it as the movie "that caused Muslims to kill United States ambassador, J Christopher Stevens," succinctly summing up popular perception. As others have pointed out, it's also simplistic. Coptic Christians like Nakoula have a tense relationship with Muslims in Egypt, and they've faced violence before. Both Egypt and Libya are still in the midst of major political transitions. And rising food prices could be contributing to unrest worldwide. "This is not a case of protest directed at the United States writ large or at US policy." In some ways, Innocence of Muslims is the culmination of the internetÃÔ role as a great leveler. YouTube can place tiny, self-published projects on equal footing with those made by traditional media outlets, and an anonymous or pseudonymous troll can claim to have stolen data from the FBI or hold Mitt RomneyÃÔ tax returns hostage. But the novelty and reach of online culture can also make it easy to exaggerate its importance, something thatÃÔ seen both in protesters insistence that the trailer is somehow condoned by the US and in the belief that Innocence of Muslims caused an attack that was likely planned for months. Even if YouTube bans Sam Bacile and his trailer, the numerous repostings, dubbed versions, and translations highlight the near impossibility of silencing offensive material once it has been released into the remix culture of the web. And the violence that followed is a reminder of how powerful online video can be at promoting an idea... or inciting populist outrage.

I remember having said something on the similar lines when there were clear rumors posted in the NE exile from Bangalore thread. There is no doubt that Internet can be used to outrage and incite people and we need to be more careful with our choice of words/actions even if it is the WWW.

[coffee_rules]

Beware! Yet another offending cartoon issue looming http://news.yahoo.com/french-cartoons-inflame-prophet-film-tensions-133108191.html

PARIS (AP) A French magazine published vulgar caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad on Wednesday, brandishing its right to free speech amid global tensions over a movie insulting to Islam. The French government ordered its embassies and French schools abroad to close on Friday, the Muslim holy day, as a precautionary measure in about 20 countries. It immediately shut down the French Embassy and the French school in Tunisia, which saw deadly film-related protests at the U.S. Embassy there last week. Charlie Hebdo's chief editor, who goes by the name of Charb and has been under police protection for a year, defended the cartoons. "Muhammad isn't sacred to me," he said in an interview at the weekly's offices on the northeast edge of Paris. "I don't blame Muslims for not laughing at our drawings. I live under French law; I don't live under Quranic law." Charb said he had no regrets and felt no responsibility for any violence. "I'm not the one going into the streets with stones and Kalashnikovs," he said. "We've had 1,000 issues and only three problems, all after front pages about radical Islam."

Mohd is saying "No need to laugh". More people will die in Asia, Middle East now protesting

[punjabi_khota]

This cartoonist/publisher dude is very brave and/or foolish. He's basically got a target printed on his forehead now.

[cricket_usa]

Here is another one. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/09/14/20200506.html

[Clarke]

This cartoonist/publisher dude is very brave and/or foolish. He's basically got a target printed on his forehead now.

Especially in France of all places in mainland Europe with their sizable community of offended minorities.

[King Khan]

http://news.yahoo.com/french-cartoons-inflame-prophet-film-tensions-133108191.html ... Mohd is saying "No need to laugh". More people will die in Asia, Middle East now protesting

Ah.. Cartoons just remind me Mamata Banarjee :giggle:

[EnterTheVoid]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8535577/placard-mother-didnt-know-what-behead-meant --- Placard mother 'didn't know what behead meant'

[coffee_rules]

yeah right.

[Tiger80]

This cartoonist/publisher dude is very brave and/or foolish. He's basically got a target printed on his forehead now.

To become famous you have to take risk.After making this cartoon he will get instant fame which O/W could have been impossible to get in his entire life

[Asim]

Mentally Torture the Muslims, hurt their feelings, make fun of their belief and ideology, directly attack their religion and provoke them by all means, knowing very well what you are doing and what the purpose is and what the outcome may be(All on name of "freedom of expression") & when they try to respond Call them radical and fundamentalist :hatsoff:

[Trichromatic]

Mentally Torture the Muslims, hurt their feelings, make fun of their belief and ideology, directly attack their religion and provoke them by all means, knowing very well what you are doing and what the purpose is and what the outcome may be(All on name of "freedom of expression") & when they try to respond Call them radical and fundamentalist :hatsoff:

Out of thousands of stuff making fun of religion, ignore most of those everyday and pick one out of nowhere to make it famous all over the world to say that feelings are hurt and then start killing people. :hatsoff:

[yoda]

Mentally Torture the Muslims, hurt their feelings, make fun of their belief and ideology, directly attack their religion and provoke them by all means, knowing very well what you are doing and what the purpose is and what the outcome may be(All on name of "freedom of expression") & when they try to respond by killing unrelated innocents Call them radical and fundamentalist :hatsoff:

[Crookbond]

Mentally Torture the Muslims, hurt their feelings, make fun of their belief and ideology, directly attack their religion and provoke them by all means, knowing very well what you are doing and what the purpose is and what the outcome may be(All on name of "freedom of expression") & when they try to respond Call them radical and fundamentalist :hatsoff:

Lets say someone made fun - Did that guy kill someone? NO. Did the protests kill someone? YES. So, it is the protestors who have "hurt" people more than any cartoonist or video.

[Trichromatic]

Lets say someone made fun - Did that guy kill someone? NO. Did the protests kill someone? YES. So' date=' it is the protestors who have "hurt" people more than any cartoonist or video.[/quote'] Video would not have hurt anyone if it was not made famous everywhere.

[Asim]

Hurting and killing some innocent, physiclaly is: terrorism and hurting and killing some innocent, mentally is?

[Trichromatic]

and hurting and killing some innocent, mentally is?

No one forces you to sit in the room and watch the video.