KeyboardWarrior Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 What about all the proof given by evidences in Qayyum report and by bookies through the years ? Despite this' date=' PCB didnt want to take action against these players. Doesnt mean they were not guilty.[/quote'] bro read my post# 29.
KeyboardWarrior Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 Malik and Rehman were small fishes like Mongia' date=' Ajay Sharma, Prabhakar, and others etc. Azhar and Jadeja were far big fishes at that time.[/quote'] bro, Salim malik was the big fish too. check his stats and records in CI. and fixer is a fixer. no matter big or small. as i said innocent until proven guilty.
KeyboardWarrior Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 and what about Shaz and Sunny ji ? as azher said something about them . :hmmm:
Junyfan Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 But But Wasim is Indian,because he love IPL & India more than Pak..... J/k On topic, those were just allegations,Wasim & co are innocent untill proven guilty.
rkt.india Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 But But Wasim is Indian,because he love IPL & India more than Pak..... J/k On topic, those were just allegations,Wasim & co are innocent untill proven guilty. so is Azhar and Jadeja then.
panther Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 If wasim and waqar and the others did not fix pakistan would have never lost a match in the 90s,, waqar and wasim both would have averaged 18-19 if they did not fix.
KeyboardWarrior Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 so is Azhar and Jadeja then. and again, ask your ICC/BCCI why they didnt allow to play them :dontknow:
diga Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 If wasim and waqar and the others did not fix pakistan would have never lost a match in the 90s' date=', waqar and wasim both would have averaged 18-19 if they did not fix.[/quote'] if azhar ,jadeja ,mongia/prabhakar & co had not fixed the matches Pak would have won even lesser matches & Waqar/Wasim would have averaged in low 30's :--D :finger:
Crookbond Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 and again' date=' ask your ICC/BCCI [b']why they didnt allow to play them :dontknow: Jadeja did play and Azhar is free to play now as well.
Marut Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 bro, do you know where is justice kayyum now ? :hmmm: he is in self-imposed exile becoz of solid corruption cases on him. so his report means nothing now. A judge having a charge of corruption does not mean that every former verdict of his means nothing. In that case, if a police officer is charged of some crime today, you would have release every criminal whose case was handled by the police officer.
zep1706 Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 I believe most Indian and Pakistani cricketers till the late '90s were heavily involved in fixing. It's near impossible to prove it now but it is what it is. They used to get peanuts compared to the players from other countries and there was easy money to be made without much risk at that time. They just took advantage of the situation.
Muloghonto Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 i think i need to copy my post again for you brother. as i said his report means nothing now. Simple. Being accused of corruption does not invalidate your previous works.
Muloghonto Posted May 22, 2013 Posted May 22, 2013 If wasim and waqar and the others did not fix pakistan would have never lost a match in the 90s' date=', waqar and wasim both would have averaged 18-19 if they did not fix.[/quote'] Err no, Pakistan would still have lost plenty of matches because Paki batsmen are FTBs. As for Waqar averaging 19...:haha::haha::haha::haha: The guy couldnt average under 25 against any decent batting lineup...ever. against Australia, England, South Africa, India- all the batting stalwart nations of that time, Waqar = Srinath. He looked like a demon against minnows like New Zealand, Bangladesh,Zimbabwe and a very depleted WI batting lineup.
rkt.india Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Kapil looks suspect now after India TV showed that Tehelka tape.
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KeyboardWarrior Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 A judge having a charge of corruption does not mean that every former verdict of his means nothing. In that case, if a police officer is charged of some crime today, you would have release every criminal whose case was handled by the police officer. Being accused of corruption does not invalidate your previous works. Brothers, what i didnt tell u in detail is that he is involved in some serious cases. he is not only involved in corruption charges but also involved giving false judgments which recently SC takes notice. Intelligence Bureau (IB), have some solid cases against him. becoz his judgments on 10 to 12 cases which includes "justice Qayyum report" is doubtful and without any solid proves and cannot prove guilty anyone in SC. becoz of that few months ago Salim Malik file appeal to HC against false verdict on him. so according to Intelligence Bureau (IB), this report means nothing included 10 to 12 cases.
panther Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 Err no, Pakistan would still have lost plenty of matches because Paki batsmen are FTBs. As for Waqar averaging 19...:haha::haha::haha::haha: The guy couldnt average under 25 against any decent batting lineup...ever. against Australia, England, South Africa, India- all the batting stalwart nations of that time, Waqar = Srinath. He looked like a demon against minnows like New Zealand, Bangladesh,Zimbabwe and a very depleted WI batting lineup. False check his stats before 1999. Anyway who cares match fixing is rampant in cricket, if there was no match fixing pakistan would never lose.
superstar Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 False check his stats before 1999. Anyway who cares match fixing is rampant in cricket, if there was no match fixing pakistan would never lose. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Pakistan would probably not be playing cricket if there was no match fixing :finger:
Muloghonto Posted May 23, 2013 Posted May 23, 2013 False check his stats before 1999. Anyway who cares match fixing is rampant in cricket, if there was no match fixing pakistan would never lose. Pakistan would lose to teams like Australia & South Africa quite easily in the 90s because they were far better teams. As fo Waqar's stats before 1999, he still qualifies as a minnow basher who had mediocre stats agianst the better batting lineups.
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