sekhar Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Ian Pont @Ponty100mph 18h Shukla (RR) has pace, but can go quicker with some help.#Prospect with the right coaching Shukla :two_thumbs_up:
sekhar Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Ian Pont @Ponty100mph 18h Shukla (RR) has IDENTICAL run up to Mohit Sharma (CSK) :hmmm: never noticed that
rkt.india Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4mpib1Nm6c]Chennai Super Kings vs Rajasthan Royals 1st Semi Final HIGHLIGHTS CL T20 2013 4.10.13 CSK VS RR P11 - YouTube[/ame]
rkt.india Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 :hmmm: never noticed that Shukla has a very good runup, best one I can see among Indian fast bowlers.
vishalvirsingh Posted October 5, 2013 Author Posted October 5, 2013 Umesh is the Best and that also by distance..... I mean among shukla, Ishant, even Varun though I don't wanna Count Varun at all as not to sure how good or fast he is After his injury, Suyal, Unadkat,Mohit or others.....I believe Umesh shud control some runs tOo-possibly dhoni wanted Him to buy wickets and he ws going too much to get wickets only Compare today"s game rishi dhawan may also have a T20 bowling analysis As good as mitchell johnson but johnson is a far better bowler than dhawan. Exactly that way Umesh is far better then a shammi or a VK....I believe there is A CLASS of difference....... Similarly BK is way ahead of all other Swing bowlers....there is hardly any competetion. I kinda strongly believe a Quality guy is a better option..... Selecting shammi VK unadkat and even ishant ahead of Umesh is not Correct....only BK Can be selected ahead of Umesh.
Old guy Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 @rkt i don not think shukla can go much faster with this action i saw that 143 k bouncer and he gave his everything..ofc you can always go faster with no control but brett lee will probably bowl at 165 without worrying about control at all in his prime.
cowboysfan Posted October 5, 2013 Posted October 5, 2013 Chennai Super Kings vs Rajasthan Royals 1st Semi Final HIGHLIGHTS CL T20 2013 4.10.13 CSK VS RR P11 - YouTube atrocious footwork by Dhoni ,i shudder to see him bat in SA.
rkt.india Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 @rkt i don not think shukla can go much faster with this action i saw that 143 k bouncer and he gave his everything..ofc you can always go faster with no control but brett lee will probably bowl at 165 without worrying about control at all in his prime. He did bowl quicker than this in IPL a against KKR. Regarding action, his pace will come from runup. He has a very fluent runup, one of the best in Indians along with Suyal. He is not runningi n right now. Remind how Steyn runs. When he wants to bowl quick, he runs in faster to get more momentum. Shukla has very similar length runup as Steyn and if he would want to bowl quick, he would run in a bit quicker. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOXeQjCHdho]Wicket of Manvinder Bisla taken by Rahul Shukla in over 2.2 Inning 2 - YouTube[/ame]
rkt.india Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 atrocious footwork by Dhoni ' date='i shudder to see him bat in SA.[/quote'] He did play some useful innings last time in SA. Any batsman would have got out on that ball, most would have lost their stumps.
vishalvirsingh Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 141K- atleast 5 to 6 balls at that pace I suppose 142 ws fastest today .... Earlier he bowled upto 143+ But bowled lot of 140+ balls in his 4 overs. I may pick him ahead of a Shammi Ahmed or even an Unadkat In ODI"s and tests.....he looks to be hardworking.
Old guy Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 In Tests would be ridiculous. don't take him seriously as he picks side based on pace dinda was better than others cos he was 2 k quicker in one match :giggle:
ShebbySB Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Shami will be a good option in tests,don't rate him in the LOIs.Regarding Shukla he is already better than VK,Unadkat & Shami in ODIs.If everyone is fit then BK, Ishant,Aaron,Mohit & Shukla should be our 5 pace bowlers for ODIs.
msb1991 Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 Shami will be a good option in tests,don't rate him in the LOIs.Regarding Shukla he is already better than VK,Unadkat & Shami in ODIs.If everyone is fit then BK, Ishant,Aaron,Mohit & Shukla should be our 5 pace bowlers for ODIs. You cannot say how good he will be in LOIs until he plays for India A, or Challenger Trophy or Deodhar Trophy, imo or even plays for Rajasthan Royals across a whole season. I think his IPL performances will have him in one of these three teams soon. His speed is interesting, I think he's the type of bowler who will get quicker when he has played for a while without injury. I wonder how well he maintains the speed across 10 overs and across a Test match. I think he will be able to maintain it quite well because he has that good action. India did not win World Cups by picking people based on literally two or three spells of bowling. However, there is no doubt he is a big prospect. I think he is the type of bowler who will just get better and better as he bowls more without injury and works out his game.
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2013 Posted October 7, 2013 You cannot say how good he will be in LOIs until he plays for India A, or Challenger Trophy or Deodhar Trophy, imo or even plays for Rajasthan Royals across a whole season. I think his IPL performances will have him in one of these three teams soon. His speed is interesting, I think he's the type of bowler who will get quicker when he has played for a while without injury. I wonder how well he maintains the speed across 10 overs and across a Test match. I think he will be able to maintain it quite well because he has that good action. India did not win World Cups by picking people based on literally two or three spells of bowling. However, there is no doubt he is a big prospect. I think he is the type of bowler who will just get better and better as he bowls more without injury and works out his game. But that has been the challenge for most Indian pacers and is for him too. Our pacers either stagnate or regress. I wonder why a bowler like him has not been successful in FC cricket though he has not played much FC because of two serious injuries he suffered back to back, stress fracture and then groin injury. Young bowlers like him sometimes are conscious of injury coming back so they do not put their best and that is what fails them.
vishalvirsingh Posted October 8, 2013 Author Posted October 8, 2013 Has Varun ArOon come back to full form n fitness
msb1991 Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 But that has been the challenge for most Indian pacers and is for him too. Our pacers either stagnate or regress. I wonder why a bowler like him has not been successful in FC cricket though he has not played much FC because of two serious injuries he suffered back to back' date=' stress fracture and then groin injury. Young bowlers like him sometimes are conscious of injury coming back so they do not put their best and that is what fails them.[/quote'] I don't know a single genuinely promising pace bowler who has been left to develop in domestic cricket. Everyone I can think of was picked too early, discarded eventually and then stagnated (as you'd expect). The only ones who developed vaguely properly are the ones who went under the radar like Praveen and Bhuv Kumar.
rkt.india Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 I don't know a single genuinely promising pace bowler who has been left to develop in domestic cricket. Everyone I can think of was picked too early' date=' discarded eventually and then stagnated (as you'd expect). The only ones who developed vaguely properly are the ones who went under the radar like Praveen and Bhuv Kumar.[/quote'] Genuine quick bowlers are always picked early in every country even if they do not have too many skills. They are picked before they lose their pace after rotting in FC cricket for long. Generally, bowlers with less pace who depends on pure skills are not picked early because such skills take time to develop and mature. Likes of Balaji, Irfan, Munaf, Sreesanth had played a lot of FC cricket before they were picked for national team.
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