CG Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Too inconsistent as well. He will take some time.but how he pulled up on day 3 morning session and bowled 130-137ks is a good sign.Zak plays a huge role mentoring the bowlers and that yorker was lovely. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Saffers are big time whiners and Robin Jackman is the biggest among them with , Ackerman and the cronies, Wessels and Mbangwa are the only ones who talk sense, quite clearly Indians are in this position because of application, execution and most important skill level of their players. Batters outplayed the SA batters by showing good patience and judging the ball on line and length per bounce, our bowlers were able to extract more life, seam and reverse which is about skills, SA bowlers did not reverse, move both ways only relied on either out ward movement and ocassional bouncer for Steyn, Morkel just bounce and trundle Vernon on slight seam of fuller length. Wessels commented that on this track which is favouring bowlers India due to their skill levels and even though slightly less pace comparatively have gained more rather then a batting track where pace would be a bigger difference but I dis agree as Indian bowlers know how to bowl on those tracks to because, Shami moves it both ways , reverses and has a decent short ball and Yorker, Zaheer has lost a bit of pace but his skills are greater then most bowlers out there and Ishant bowled well with his wobbly seam like Vernon he gets ocassional one to come in or out although he should bowl atleast 5 k quicker then his pace of 134 k in this game to be really good and attacking. SA batters have been found wanting against skillfull bowling and their bowlers same have not found success comparatively due to application and skill level of our batters and not because of their stupid excuses, better conditions, Morkel injury [yes it is a handicap but Virat, Pujara have played Steyn who is the spear head with success], also it is annoying to hear them repeating again and again trying to relate we have a mediocre bowling attack lol, then ur batters suck big time don't they lol Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I have no idea why people saying zak bowled poorly. Insanity Bowled supeb and was crucial in bowling them out. Looked as good as in peak. Complete control of ball, swinging both ways, reversing like a mofo.. And of course the brillinat mind, set up smith beautifully for example 2 out swingers and then indipper to snare him lbw You mofos are so ungrateful. Total genius this bloke and was masterful in 1st innings Only bowled well the next day, was not that great the day before, lacked control, too many half trackers, short and wide along with loopy harmless half volleys on that day. At once, was going 4 rpo conceded 48 runs in 12 overs before tea just before that Ishant burst. I hope he will get better wrt control because he is the one who we can depend on not giving to many lose balls unlike Ishant or Umesh. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 But but he was not bowling in the 140s like Yadav na Yadav would have had a 5-fer here.:winky: Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 He will take some time.but how he pulled up on day 3 morning session and bowled 130-137ks is a good sign.Zak plays a huge role mentoring the bowlers and that yorker was lovely. Yes, he certainly was better on day 3, but will need to control those half volleys and short and wide stuff. We did not see much of them from Saffie pacers. They were far more consistent than our bowlers. Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Yes' date=' he certainly was better on day 3, but will need to control those half volleys and short and wide stuff. We did not see much of them from Saffie pacers. They were far more consistent than our bowlers.[/quote'] We are bowling much fuller and much straighter so you can expect more half vollies That's the negative of our strategy and tbh its the way mtomgo and with runs of board it shlould work out well Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 We are bowling much fuller and much straighter so you can expect more half vollies That's the negative of our strategy and tbh its the way mtomgo and with runs of board it shlould work out well More than hall volleys, I was pissed because of too much gentle short and wide stuff from both Ishant and Zak. Shami was far better than both in first innings but they got more wickets. Shami conceded 4 boundaries in 18 overs that was brilliant consistency from him. Both Ishant and Zak 20 plus. Link to comment
Old guy Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 More than hall volleys' date=' I was pissed because of too much gentle short and wide stuff from both Ishant and Zak. Shami was far better than both in first innings but they got more wickets. Shami conceded 4 boundaries in 18 overs that was brilliant consistency from him. Both Ishant and Zak 20 plus.[/quote'] Oh yeah shami was unlucky to miss many edges and a drop was off him too But with Zack it was expected after all its his comeback and Ushant always bowls short and wide filth bu over all it was good bowling performance for perfection we might need one more bowler :winky: Link to comment
Zanjeer Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Should Ashwin play tomorrow ?? Looking at the pitch, and the history of the results , it won't be a bad idea to play ashwin. He might pick us wickets but I would like to see jadeja replacing him...✳☀✳✳✳⭐❇...he is a better batsman in my humble opinion...☝ Link to comment
JourneyMan Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Ideally Jadeja, but at the very least at least one spinner. Link to comment
NareshK Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Looking at the pitch' date=' and the history of the results , it won't be a bad idea to play ashwin. He might pick us wickets but I would like to see jadeja replacing him...✳☀✳✳✳⭐❇...he is a better batsman in my humble opinion...☝[/quote'] Ashwin is certainly a better batsman. He plays the short deliveries well and has time to play pace bowlers. Jaddu also has a tendency to waft outside off stump. Also as a bowler, Ashwin has more variations and can flight the ball while Jaddu is more of a darter and will stop runs at best. Unless wickets offers lots of turn which is usually not the case in SA (even in Durban), Jaddu wont be that effective. Link to comment
Pagalpanti Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Ashwin will play, his batting is too big a factor. And tbf he bowled decently in 2nd innings without much assistance from the pitch. Link to comment
skindia Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Both ashwin and jaddu should play drop dhawan or rohit Link to comment
sachin34357 Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 drop rohit & ashwin, bring in jadeja & ojha Link to comment
Marut Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Bring Jadeja in for Rohit. Link to comment
Lord Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Ashwin will play' date=' his batting is too big a factor. And tbf he bowled decently in 2nd innings without much assistance from the pitch.[/quote'] agree Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Ashwin might play. But Jadeja is better option. That is my opinion. Team management is the one has to decide which option suits them. Link to comment
Laaloo Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Yes. No point in dropping him for one match. and no point in picking Yadav for one match. It's pointless. Better to go with the same combination. Link to comment
helperononline Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 dhoni wont change the team that easily so ashwin might play i want sir or ojha to be tested in these condition what is the use of carrying them everywhere ? Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 We are going with the same side. Link to comment
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