Sandeep99 Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Look at the brighter side. There wasn't a test match first up! I have no doubt we will come good. There were a few nerves early on and it showed. Heck we even lost to Australia chasing 302 last series. Few changes: Rahane in for Yuvraj; Umesh for Mohit
MCcricket Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 This was always going to happen. We always knew that whatever success Indian team get in Indian condition would have little bearing on what we going to do outside subcontinent. But Dhoni and management preferred to have short-sighted approach to suit their needs to have their 4 days of glory. I agree and that is why I respect n rate Ganguly, More, and team management at that time, Cheeka was the cancer who set the rot with bad n partisan selections, no strategy,pushing for trundlers
Ghost Buster Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 5 CSK players are in the starting 11 today. Dhoni Raina Jadeja Ashwin Mohit. Is this team India or ********* Srini's baap ka team? How many of these players deserve to be in the team? Dhoni no doubt deserves his spot.The best ODI player in the world. One between Jadeja and Ashwin deserves a spot. Rest 3?Why the hell are they there? After we loose all the matches in this tour srini mama will threaten the selectors and save dhoni's captaincy and we will go on loosing , remember 8-0
ganeshran Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 OP has a great track record at predictions :hatsoff: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=269160
youngindia Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 the problem is he is not correcting some of his mistakes and he does not do it quickly enough. today he shud have known about the bounce at wanderers and shud have opted for the fastest bowlers we have. there has been one spinner too many for SA. he has been letdown as well. by yuvraj who shud be shouldering half of the responsibility.by idiots rp singh and sreesanth plus slow learning ishant who put us in the position we are today.
GrandMasterSaxy Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 India have the habit of bouncing back, I am sure India will. Playing 3 ODIs will give rough idea of the pitch and bouce, which is good for the upcoming test matches. Even Pakistan were whitewashed in march and lost 6 matches in a row in UAE, eventually they bounced back and won the ODI series.
asterix Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 What a start for Dhobi brigade.... :hysterical: The Podus in the team will ensure 3-0 loss....
Ghost Buster Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 We should remember that our young team had no time to acclamatize to totally different SAF conditions. There was no practice match which is very unfair on us. This wad their bounciest and perhaps fastest pitch. We should perform better in the coming matches provided we pick Umesh along with Shami. Yuvi should sit out too. Our team is a fighting lot and things should improve. Ishant too
Ram Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Cant expect too much out of this ODI series any way. Contrary to usual practice, they chose to put the ODIs in front the tests in the tour, just so that the team can get some semblance of practice of pace/bounce before the tests. The ODIs were clearly sacrificed in lieu of the tests.
express bowling Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Ishant too On this track, we badly missed a tall , bouncy pacer. As much as I am against Ishant Sharma, with his current release problem etc. , ... this pitch was taylor-made for him.
coffee_rules Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 OP has a great track record at predictions :hatsoff: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=269160 Or this.. http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=127151&highlight=countdown
express bowling Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Cant expect too much out of this ODI series any way. Contrary to usual practice' date=' they chose to put the ODIs in front the tests in the tour, just so that the team can get some semblance of practice of pace/bounce before the tests. The ODIs were clearly sacrificed in lieu of the tests.[/quote'] Yep. But with that in mind, shouldn't they have included Pujara in the team and Umesh in the playing 11 ?
vvvslaxman Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Yep. But with that in mind' date=' shouldn't they have included Pujara in the team and Umesh in the playing 11 ?[/quote'] Considering we are in a no win situation that would have been a good idea. He would have gotten some exposure against serious pace bowling .
Ram Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Yep. But with that in mind' date=' shouldn't they have included Pujara in the team and Umesh in the playing 11 ?[/quote'] You don’t insult the members of the team that is no.1 in ODI rankings, current world cup/CT champions and has the best record in ODIs this year and say – ‘we are going to drop a couple of year just to give the test regulars some practice.. we don’t think you can win anyway..’ You have to respect our ODI XI
express bowling Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 You don’t insult the members of the team that is no.1' date=' current world cup/CT champions and has the best record in ODIs this year and say – ‘we are going to drop a couple of year just to give the test regulars some practice.. we don’t think you can win anyway..’ You have to respect our ODI XI[/quote'] If we want to play like no.1 in ODIs, in SAF or Australia, we require a solid no.4 who can play pace and bounce. Yuvi , in his current form, is not fitting the bill. Pujara would have been far better even from an ODI point of view in SAF. Similarly, one more genuine fast bowler was required in the Wanderers, considering the conditions. Further, if our board really wanted to respect our ODI team, they would have arranged for practice matches.
coffee_rules Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 dhawan, rohit, kohli, dhoni, rahane, raina, Sir. ashwin, yadav, ishant, shami -- for durban.
Ram Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 If we want to play like no.1 in ODIs, in SAF or Australia, we require a solid no.4 who can play pace and bounce. Yuvi , in his current form, is not fitting the bill. Pujara would have been far better even from an ODI point of view in SAF. Similarly, one more genuine fast bowler was required in the Wanderers, considering the conditions. I often come across this weird logic – We will play this player on these conditions, but swap him out for somebody else in another condition. I cannot think of a more counter-productive strategy. Think how would you feel if you were Yuvraj/Raina if Fletcher came to you and said ‘You are going to be our no.4 in Asia, but in Aus/SAF, Pujara is going to take your place..’ Yuvraj and Raina either play in our ODI team in all conditions or they don’t play at all. And these 2, especially Yuvraj, has proven over the years they can deliver everywhere. One game does not change that.
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 How on earth you allow opposition to score 350+ on this pitch? You know your bowling is in serious trouble when you allow opposition to score 350+ on this track. There was steep bounce, constant seam movement. With India using this fresh pitch in the afternoon, this should have been a 250 run match max. No words to describe this trundler brigade who don't even know to bowl on the best of surfaces. Add to that an overweight & over hyped Ashwin. I am not sad because we lost the match. I am not sad our batsman failed to chase 350+ one more time. BUT I am absolutely gutted that our bowling is going no where. Mind you folks - all the matches in 2015 WC will be in similar surfaces. So whats next for Indian bowlers?
Austin 3:!6 Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 OP has a great track record at predictions :hatsoff: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=269160 :antijinx:
express bowling Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 I often come across this weird logic – We will play this player on these conditions' date=' but swap him out for somebody else in another condition. I cannot think of a more counter-productive strategy. Think how would you feel if you were Yuvraj/Raina if Fletcher came to you and said ‘You are going to be our no.4 in Asia, but in Aus/SAF, Pujara is going to take your place..’ Yuvraj and Raina either play in our ODI team in all conditions or they don’t play at all. And these 2, especially Yuvraj, has proven over the years they can deliver everywhere. One game does not change that.[/quote'] Horses for courses is a very successful strategy used by all top sides. Nothing weird about about it except in your mind. Do you think SAF would have gone with an all pacer attack in India ? Yuvi was not looking in form even in India. No harm in him sorting out his issues and then coming back. If players like Raina are so touchy about them being dropped in certain conditions then they should sort out the issues they are having.
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