thecricketer Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 IF Aaron is fit enough to play ' date=' he should have been in Test team too in place of Ishant ..We need 145+ kph bowlers like him more in tests :fight:[/quote'] Yes with Shami/Umesh/Aaron India will be playing their fastest pace combination in Test history. But pity, Dhoni will select Zak and Ishant as first choice
kubrickian Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 It does seem as if Pankaj is paying penalty for Lalit Modi. Indian cricket makes me sad sometimes Binny in cos of dad, Pankaj not even a sniff of a chance cos plays for wrong state which bigwigs have vendetta against. Pankaj is way too slow. He bowls around 125-128k and sometimes hits 130-132. He is tall and may get some bounce but his slow pace means test batsmen will find him easy to play. I know some people here are suggesting he increased his pace but the same was said about Unadkat and that he was bowling 135-140k but when he played against Aus in ODIs, it was embarrassing to see him trundling at below 125k pace.
King Tendulkar Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Pankaj is way too slow. He bowls around 125-128k and sometimes hits 130-132. He is tall and may get some bounce but his slow pace means test batsmen will find him easy to play. I know some people here are suggesting he increased his pace but the same was said about Unadkat and that he was bowling 135-140k but when he played against Aus in ODIs, it was embarrassing to see him trundling at below 125k pace. Fair enough To me all squads should have aaron, yadav and shami. And that should be our first pick seamers in odis and tests. Keep them in squad, manage their world load etc in indian squad
King Tendulkar Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Yes with Shami/Umesh/Aaron India will be playing their fastest pace combination in Test history. But pity' date=' Dhoni will select Zak and Ishant as first choice[/quote'] Its mind boggling that selctors and dhobis mouths are not watering at the thought. I get a semi just thinking about it.:giggle: Yet they seem so diinterested in this and want nice line and lenght bowlrs who hit top of off at 80mph
asterix Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Pankaj is way too slow. He bowls around 125-128k and sometimes hits 130-132. He is tall and may get some bounce but his slow pace means test batsmen will find him easy to play. I know some people here are suggesting he increased his pace but the same was said about Unadkat and that he was bowling 135-140k but when he played against Aus in ODIs, it was embarrassing to see him trundling at below 125k pace. Slow or not, he's been performing well in Domestic cricket. What's the criteria for selections then. Atleast give one chance to those who've been performing well in domestic cricket else just scrap the drama of domestic cricket. Wasn't Jaddu selected in Test team on the basis of his triple hundreds in domestic cricket or is it because he plays for CSK?
JaFanatic Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Binny did well in the recent A tours in this format so i dont think its an unfair call can be our 5th bowler and a useful hitter down the order
Detonator Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I do not think they are going to do any worse than deadwood and tried and tested failure. Shami can swing both ways' date=' Umesh can attack with pace, and Pandey can keep it tight and in helpful condition will bowl his outswingers and will get extra bounce as well.[/quote'] Exactly. from what I have seen Ishwar Pandey deserves this NZ tour. Zak shld just do coaching and pissant shld go to some tourist spots.
ThePhenomenal1 Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 really wish srini had been booted. ipl scandal was the perfect thing to initiate that. don't know what happened. cricket players are now picked on ipl associations and who they play for and not how they play. Of course, selectors have done a good job but still.. retaining ishant? i don't get it. when will somebody stand up and question the decision?
ShebbySB Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Test team v NZ-MSD©,Dhawan,Vijay,Pujara,Virat, Rohit,Rahane,Jadeja,Zak,Shami,Ishant,Rayudu,Bhuvi,Ashwin,Umesh,Saha,Ishwar. BCCI @BCCI 2m ODI Team vs NZ-MSD©,Dhawan,Rohit,Virat,Rahane,Rayudu,Raina,Ashwin,Jadeja, Bhuvi,Shami,Ishant,Mishra,Ishwar,Binny,Aaron. Source: BCCI twitter Both Zak & Ishant should've been dropped,I'm still ok with Zak...he can guide other young pacers but Ishant?:mad: Aaron should've been there in stead of Pissant. Dhawan,Vijay,Pujara,Kohli,Rahane,Rohit,Dhoni,Jadeja,Zak,Shami,Ishant/Umesh will be the first XI in tests.Reserves:-Rayudu,Saha,Ashwin,BK,Ishwar. For ODIs:-Dhawan,Rohit,Virat,Rahane,Raina,MSD,Jadeja,Ashwin,BK,Shami,Aaron is my first XI.Reserves:-Rayudu,Binny,Mishra,Ishant,Ishwar.Binny & Mishra are poor selections....I'd rather have Rishi & Rasool.
rkt.india Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 Pankaj is way too slow. He bowls around 125-128k and sometimes hits 130-132. He is tall and may get some bounce but his slow pace means test batsmen will find him easy to play. I know some people here are suggesting he increased his pace but the same was said about Unadkat and that he was bowling 135-140k but when he played against Aus in ODIs, it was embarrassing to see him trundling at below 125k pace. Pankaj used to bowl that pace 3 years back, not now. He has gained at least 10k of pace since then a he worked with their South African import bowling coach Mayrick Pringle who worked on his action and he now bowls consistently in the range 135-142K. Last time, I saw him live was last year in season opener where he took 9 wickets and bowled in same pace range.
ShebbySB Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 He is a tall 6'2" outswing bowler who bowls mostly around 132 to 139K range. He has the best outswing in India right now of what I have seen. 128-132 range bowler who's tall so extracts bounce,has a good outswing & very accurate.He'll be around 132-136 ks in Intl matches.
King Tendulkar Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I am not optimistic about this pandey seems like a bit of a trundler
Old guy Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I am not optimistic about this pandey seems like a bit of a trundler Good now create a thread saying he is tender and will never do well And don't change ur mind afterwards
Switchblade Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Ishant still in the squad :headshake: plus even the selection of Binny is questionable.
G_B_ Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Should be ok for tests. In the recent Sa-India series Philander was at times barely touching 130. In general i like this team. I think they should back Rahane at 4. Ditch project Raina.
ShebbySB Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I am not optimistic about this pandey seems like a bit of a trundler Pace wise similar or bit quicker than BK,very accurate,tall & extracts bounce. Picks lots of wkts in the FC matches,has done well in the SA tour with the A team.Don't jump the gun mate.
Number Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I am not optimistic about this pandey seems like a bit of a trundler After first few games you had similar view of shami.:--D
div Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 After first few games you had similar view of shami.:--D He is slower than Shami
King Tendulkar Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Pace wise similar or bit quicker than BK,very accurate,tall & extracts bounce. Picks lots of wkts in the FC matches,has done well in the SA tour with the A team.Don't jump the gun mate. I am not wrting him off. I have not seen him play much Just speeds are low, not the type to impact at highest level. Being tall does not mean a lot unless delivered at pace. Look at Tremlett in recent ashes. Giant of a man. Yet in 1st test was bowling low 80s and murdered, poms distraught at low 80s pace and thus axed him
rkt.india Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 128-132 range bowler who's tall so extracts bounce' date='has a good outswing & very accurate.He'll be around 132-136 ks in Intl matches.[/quote'] I have seen him bowl up to 139K that is why I said.
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