ThePhenomenal1 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Ashwin is a better batsman than Dhoni and Jadeja in bowler-friendly conditions. India should be flexible with his batting position. Not a bad idea because if its a flatter track then u get the big hitters, if tough then get ashwin at 6
RedFlow Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 India can't win the series from 8th ranked team :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Laaloo Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Be patient. We are in the middle of a transition. We are slowly identifying who is hack who is the real deal. CT was good and all. But we cannot extrapolate those results in future and expect the same outcome everywhere. Whatever that happened in India shoudl be taken with a pinch of salt. It didn't exactly help us to start a tour straightaway without even practice match. Some guys are dead slow in adapting to the conditions. By the time they do series would be over. Problem is that the next series is in Asia against *****y teams. Players like Rohit and Jadeja will do make easy runs and cement their place. People won't remember this NZ or SA tour. Afridi90 1
veer Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 If we need the best results, we gotta make two different teams.. one for foreign pitches and one for sub continent.. ODIs as well as Tests.. Some players can play in both teams like cricketics mentioned but Pujara is a must for foreign pitches and can be liability for flat pitches. Opposite goes for Dhawan, liability for foreign and must for Indian pitches..
ThePhenomenal1 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Problem is the bowling and captaincy. If you look at each ODI, we made 250-270 atleast and in 3rd ODI made over 300+. Had our bowlers performed even 20 runs better, the games were ours. Not a question of batting or fielding, but bowling.. if we get those middle overs right and use the best bowlers available with intention to take wickets and everyone does their bit then you will see India win a lot more. Huge pressure on batting side to chase 300ish scores overseas. Anyway, you saw the quality of indian team with Ashwin and Jadeja saving the match so that's that!
Cricketics Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Spare a thought for OP guys. OP is scared that NZ will take Pakistan's no. 5 ranking slot and will put Pakistan way below at no. 7 or 8.
vvvslaxman Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Well NZ did get whitewashed by 10th ranked side :cantstop:
Iconoclast Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Don't worry bhai .. India will be forever top 3 team no matter how many times they lose away ... and while we are on the subject of losing away BCCI's next goal will be to have all cricket matches take place in India :hitler:
vvvslaxman Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Don't worry bhai .. India will be forever top 3 team no matter how many times they lose away ... and while we are on the subject of losing away BCCI's next goal will be to have all cricket matches take place in India :hitler: No matter how much you whine, all teams get their ass kicked in one part or the other. No team is winning everywhere. India won everything in England. Lost 2 in SA. Lost 2 in NZ. NZ was whitewashed in India and Bangladesh. Australia lost in India. England lost in India. SA lost in SA against Pakistan owned them in UAE. so don't tell me there is another team that has better record than India over the last 5 years. Just check ou win/loss India is head and shoulders above every other team.
vvvslaxman Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 If we need the best results, we gotta make two different teams.. one for foreign pitches and one for sub continent.. ODIs as well as Tests.. Some players can play in both teams like cricketics mentioned but Pujara is a must for foreign pitches and can be liability for flat pitches. Opposite goes for Dhawan, liability for foreign and must for Indian pitches.. Fundamental problem is this. Bowling. In India , our batting can do super human things like chasing 350 plus totals. Outside they can't do that. At best 250 to 270. If you expect them to chase 350, 360, 300 even outside India then that is a tall order. Apart from the two ODIs in SA our batting has been decent abroad. In CT,. Unless India makes a concerted effort to restrict teams to totals like 220, 230 it is going to be hard work for batsmen. You cannot expect batsmen to chase 300 every single time.
Straight Drive Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Not just this series. Future. Dhoni should come ahead of Raina always. Agreed. Dhoni should at least bat at 5 if not 4.
deathmonger Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Don't worry bhai .. India will be forever top 3 team no matter how many times they lose away ... and while we are on the subject of losing away BCCI's next goal will be to have all cricket matches take place in India :hitler: Don't worry kid, in two days time you won't even have a cricket team.
BlueBee Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Well NZ did get whitewashed by 10th ranked side :cantstop: :giggle::giggle::hysterical::hysterical::haha::haha:
mr cricket Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 They're now ranked 7th. It is not easy beating NZ at their own home. They are going to be a serious contender for the World Cup 2015.
Junyfan Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 They are going to be a serious contender for the World Cup 2015. :giggle:
veer Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Fundamental problem is this. Bowling. In India ' date=' our batting can do super human things like chasing 350 plus totals. Outside they can't do that. At best 250 to 270. If you expect them to chase 350, 360, 300 even outside India then that is a tall order. Apart from the two ODIs in SA our batting has been decent abroad. In CT,. Unless India makes a concerted effort to restrict teams to totals like 220, 230 it is going to be hard work for batsmen. You cannot expect batsmen to chase 300 every single time.[/quote'] That's cuz of Kohli n Dhoni performances.. If you have watched last 6 Odi games, you would have seen horrible batting display. My main issue is with Rosharma, Dhawan n Raina, they are performing horribly.. It's not that they are out of form it is just that they are not skilled enuff to play in foreign conditions.
Straight Drive Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Problem is that the next series is in Asia against *****y teams. Players like Rohit and Jadeja will do make easy runs and cement their place. People won't remember this NZ or SA tour. Yes, i expect Rohit and Shikhar to score another 150 in Asia.Not just us but even the think tank knows runs will flow from their bats in our conditions. We can then very well forget how our openers do overseas in adverse conditions.Backup will be Murali Vijay, who will also score a 100. India shining next month. Give them some time i say :winky:
Pagalpanti Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Problem is that the next series is in Asia against *****y teams. Players like Rohit and Jadeja will do make easy runs and cement their place. People won't remember this NZ or SA tour. Jadeja has been performing well away as well. Just one bad tour so far for him in SA.
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