NareshK Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 If he can step up his batting in a big way, he can play at 6 instead of Rohit Sharma in tests in overseas conditions which will help us play another seamer. We will have 4 seamers + 1 spinner combination which will give us the best chance to take 20 wickets. He has to start batting up the order in ODIs and take more responsibility. Then can be tried up the order in tests as well. Otherwise, its tough to expect just 3 of our seamers to take all the wickets especially if the pitch becomes flat. We have seen them bowl poorly in at least one innings where they lose the advantage. So they need backup.
Sean Bradley Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is neither a reliable spinner nor a reliable batsman. He is a bits and pieces T20 specialist, struggles against short pitch bowling, though he is effective in home conditions in tests, but in overseas condition, with the kind of role you are expecting out of him, he can make you both a bowler and a batsman short in the same test match.
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 hes not going to be an allrounder.try Ashwin if we need one. also we need to start taking catches.even 3 seamers would have done the job if we took catches.
NareshK Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is neither a reliable spinner nor a reliable batsman. He is a bits and pieces T20 specialist' date=' [b']struggles against short pitch bowling, though he is effective in home conditions in tests, but in overseas condition, with the kind of role you are expecting out of him, he can make you both a bowler and a batsman short in the same test match. He has looked more comfortable playing the hook and pull than many regular batsmen in the side.
NareshK Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 hes not going to be an allrounder.try Ashwin if we need one. also we need to start taking catches.even 3 seamers would have done the job if we took catches. Yes, our catching has to improve but few catches do go down here and there occasionally. NZ have dropped catches as well and so does every other side. The problem is 3 seamers wont be enough to take 20 wickets in England. You need to go with 4 seamers and you need to play a spinner as well because pitch helps spin on 4th and 5th days in England. They could promote Jadeja up the order to 4 or 5 in ODIs to see how he bats when he has time. If he does well, he could be given a chance in tests as well.
The Realist Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is neither a reliable spinner nor a reliable batsman. He is a bits and pieces T20 specialist' date=' struggles against short pitch bowling, though he is effective in home conditions in tests, but in overseas condition, with the kind of role you are expecting out of him, he can make you both a bowler and a batsman short in the same test match.[/quote'] Agree. He is not test standard and unlikely he will ever become a consistent player in the format. At test level he is not good enough as a batsman, he is never going to make big scores and is a glorified part-timer as a bowler. He is not the solution.
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Yes, our catching has to improve but few catches do go down here and there occasionally. NZ have dropped catches as well and so does every other side. The problem is 3 seamers wont be enough to take 20 wickets in England. You need to go with 4 seamers and you need to play a spinner as well because pitch helps spin on 4th and 5th days in England. They could promote Jadeja up the order to 4 or 5 in ODIs to see how he bats when he has time. If he does well, he could be given a chance in tests as well. as I said,I see much more hope of that role with Ashwin. about playing 3 seamers,we weren't even playing our 3 best ones.Play the best 3 and improve catches and see how it goes.If we still struggle then maybe can include a 4th pacer.
G_B_ Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Sir Jadeja is neither anikken nor luke skywalker...... However i dont think he is a bits and pieces player. His bowling average at home is very good.
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Sir Jadeja is neither anikken nor luke skywalker...... However i dont think he is a bits and pieces player. His bowling average at home is very good. and did well in Durban Test too
Detonator Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Sir Jadeja is neither anikken nor luke skywalker...... However i dont think he is a bits and pieces player. His bowling average at home is very good. he is jar jar brinks
rkt.india Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 He has looked more comfortable playing the hook and pull than many regular batsmen in the side. More than hook and pull, you need a solid defense in tests which he doesn't have.
NareshK Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 as I said,I see much more hope of that role with Ashwin. about playing 3 seamers,we weren't even playing our 3 best ones.Play the best 3 and improve catches and see how it goes.If we still struggle then maybe can include a 4th pacer. Ashwin doesnt have the control that is needed to be a good test spinner overseas. In Indian conditions he may pick wickets, that's it.
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Ashwin doesnt have the control that is needed to be a good test spinner overseas. In Indian conditions he may pick wickets' date=' that's it.[/quote'] If there is some help in the wicket,I think he can exploit it.like 4th-5th day in England his problem is when there is nothing there and hes left on his own
putrevus Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is last person who needs to be batting at no 6, this guy is disgrace to be called as batsmen, this idiot has no defense , technique or temperament. neither he is an explosive batsman who on his day can take away match from opposition. I would take Afridi over this guy any day both as batsman and bowler. Along with Dhobi this moron screwed up any chance of winning in first test.His batting is more suited to no 10 than no 8.His holding the bat cannot even be termed as slogging, it was so predictable.
NareshK Posted February 19, 2014 Author Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/712821.html
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is last person who needs to be batting at no 6, this guy is disgrace to be called as batsmen, this idiot has no defense , technique or temperament. neither he is an explosive batsman who on his day can take away match from opposition. I would take Afridi over this guy any day both as batsman and bowler. Along with Dhobi this moron screwed up any chance of winning in first test.His batting is more suited to no 10 than no 8.His holding the bat cannot even be termed as slogging, it was so predictable. both had 50+ run partnership IIRC :hmmm:
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is last person who needs to be batting at no 6, this guy is disgrace to be called as batsmen, this idiot has no defense , technique or temperament. neither he is an explosive batsman who on his day can take away match from opposition. I would take Afridi over this guy any day both as batsman and bowler. Along with Dhobi this moron screwed up any chance of winning in first test.His batting is more suited to no 10 than no 8.His holding the bat cannot even be termed as slogging, it was so predictable. both had 50+ run partnership IIRC :hmmm:
Lord Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Jadeja is last person who needs to be batting at no 6, this guy is disgrace to be called as batsmen, this idiot has no defense , technique or temperament. neither he is an explosive batsman who on his day can take away match from opposition. I would take Afridi over this guy any day both as batsman and bowler. Along with Dhobi this moron screwed up any chance of winning in first test.His batting is more suited to no 10 than no 8.His holding the bat cannot even be termed as slogging, it was so predictable. both had 50+ run partnership IIRC :hmmm:
putrevus Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 both had 50+ run partnership IIRC :hmmm: on a pitch where their no 8 batsmen scored a 100 with utmost ease we will pat both our captain and no 8 who just slogged his way for 16 ball 26 or 21 ball 26. If that is what a no 8 batsmen is required to do then we have different expectations from no 8 who is in the team as holding bowler. Ability to stay at the crease for longer period of time is required by no 8 by almost every good team.
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