saneindian Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 But there was clearly no message or intention conveyed to the batsmen to keep an eye on the NRR. Even after the first match' date=' we made the same mistake in the second one. Pathetic from the management, it is not rocket science[/quote'] Asia Cup 2012, we witnessed a useless 100 ultimately leaving us short by 25-30 runs from the par total, no instructions from the management then either. Was the management responsible or the batsman? Also when the management intervened in a test knock about a decade ago declaring the innings to give our bowlers enough time, it resulted in a massive controversy! Management responsible again?
Sidhoni Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Asia Cup 2012, we witnessed a useless 100 ultimately leaving us short by 25-30 runs from the par total, no instructions from the management then either. Was the management responsible or the batsman? Also when the management intervened in a test knock about a decade ago declaring the innings to give our bowlers enough time, it resulted in a massive controversy! Management responsible again?
CSK Fan Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Asia Cup 2012, we witnessed a useless 100 ultimately leaving us short by 25-30 runs from the par total, no instructions from the management then either. Was the management responsible or the batsman? Also when the management intervened in a test knock about a decade ago declaring the innings to give our bowlers enough time, it resulted in a massive controversy! Management responsible again? First of all absolutely irrelevant points but I will still answer them NRR was not a factor in that elimination, inability to defend 290 against the might Bangladesh team was. That tournament had head to head as a factor and not NRR. If we didn't defend 290, I see no reason we could have defended 320 either. But main point is, you have to be cognizant of what is and what is not important in each series. There are definitely things not under your control (like what the batsmen does in the middle, his form, etc) but there are other factors in your control (stressing the importance of NRR to your team members, etc) Secondly, when you have already made mistakes in the past (losing out because of NRR), you should learn from the mistakes and make sure you do not repeat them again. You can be ignorant once but not every time. From the reactions, there was a clear lack of urgency and communication in the entire team. Clearly NRR was not even discussed as a strategy No captain can control the uncontrollable, but he can definitely strategize and tell everyone what is the priority. If a batsman is struggling post that, nothing much you can do
Sidhoni Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 First of all absolutely irrelevant points but I will still answer them NRR was not a factor in that elimination, inability to defend 290 against the might Bangladesh team was. That tournament had head to head as a factor and not NRR. If we didn't defend 290, I see no reason we could have defended 320 either. But main point is, you have to be cognizant of what is and what is not important in each series. There are definitely things not under your control (like what the batsmen does in the middle, his form, etc) but there are other factors in your control (stressing the importance of NRR to your team members, etc) Secondly, when you have already made mistakes in the past (losing out because of NRR), you should learn from the mistakes and make sure you do not repeat them again. You can be ignorant once but not every time. From the reactions, there was a clear lack of urgency and communication in the entire team. Clearly NRR was not even discussed as a strategy No captain can control the uncontrollable, but he can definitely strategize and tell everyone what is the priority. If a batsman is struggling post that, nothing much you can do Definitely they weren't looking to win it in the last over. It was both hoping for a higher net run-rate and giving him some time in the middle,†explained Dhoni. “I am glad he got a bit of time because it will only settle his nerves. We all know how dangerous he can be; once he gets going, he will give many more victories. It was a fair enough chance. If we could have increased the net run-rate a bit, it would have been good but still we have couple of games and we should try to make the most of them. If Yuvi comes back into form, if he bats really well, he is a good asset to have a No. 4. Apart from the above he also said that he would have liked a higher NRR but it was eventually upto the batsmen in the middle.
cowboysfan Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 One word . Afridi. Throw in Hafeez. Bangladesh will lose the match 10 out of 10 times to Pakistan. FOr heavensake they lost to Pakistan outcasts lol seriously,they give up once you get one or two of their top guys.they have no fighting spirit at all and they call themselves tigers.
rixxuu Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Go team blue go and beat the hell out of ausies. Pak will take care of WI and BD.
Zero_Unit Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Well thnx to WI vs BD, net runrate might even be more important in this group. If I was dhoni, I would send BD out to bat and chase those run down the fastest possible. Send all the damn hitters if necessary.
veer Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 I am more worried about performance against Ozzies than our NRR... India has not been tested yet.. two tosses won, two easy games, two chases.. what happens when we lose toss, set the target and back against the wall scenario.
Danno Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 Go team blue go and beat the hell out of ausies. Pak will take care of WI and BD. And then, to get your asses whooped by Sri Lanka in the semi-final. Right ?? :giggle: :giggle:
Pakistan Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 BD can easily thrash pak and India. more pak than India. will depend on the toss Last time they beat us was in 1999.
moniker Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Definitely they weren't looking to win it in the last over. Apart from the above he also said that he would have liked a higher NRR but it was eventually upto the batsmen in the middle. How can a middle order batsman play out a few balls to get his eye in and also look to finish the match quickly in T20? :what: In T20s only the top order has that luxury.
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Last time they beat us was in 1999. I agree. I am not trying to belittle your team here. It is the make up of the format and your brittle batting. BD will find India tough to beat but Bangla bowlers can trouble your batting. I clearly said they can beat India too..but BD has a better chance against Pak
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Chris Gayle is due and that will come against Aus or Pak. that team can bid adieu to the tournament
SLICKR392 Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 And then' date=' to get your asses whooped by Sri Lanka in the semi-final. Right ?? :giggle: :giggle:[/quote'] Did he provoke you or say something absurd in that post for you to make that comment? At least try to be civil!
nitinbwj Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 We can win against Aus only if we chase.I don't see our bowlers defending any total against their batting.
kruiser Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Yuvi made a 19 ball 10 and our NRR is + 0.363. let us suppose he should have made a 7 ball 10, thus gaining us 2 overs. This would make our NRR at +0.75. This is still far less than group leaders WI @ + 1.75
BlueBee Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 If we win all our matches, Then also NRR is a factor or not :idunno:
sandeep Posted March 27, 2014 Author Posted March 27, 2014 People seem to be missing a simple point - going slow in the 1st 2 games has put us at risk of being eliminated if we have a lop-sided loss against Australia. If we had shown some intent, we could have minimized that risk or even eliminated it.
rixxuu Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 @Danno. you mistake the colour blue. srilanka are not ind we can take care of them. #wt202009final
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