G_B_ Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 And thats a valid reason ? secondly "guessing" ? its not a commual reason though. I am all for punishing them. Jail them. We also have to keep in mind the deceased friend Riyaz claims the techie was shot cause of his beard and skull cap. Isnt Riyaz second guessing that? For all we know this guy Riyaz has one big victim mentality.The least we can infer is that its the opinion of Riyaz
RedFever Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 http://kohram.in/nikhil-tikone-had-uploaded-the-shivaji-and-bal-thackeray-controversial-photo/ waah bhai,very reliable source.
Shunya Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 this is sad... typical Indian chewtiyapa stuff here... kisibhi choti cheez pe jagda shuru karo...and dhire dhire that thing turns into a full scale riot... and no one knows whose at fault and who is inciting who... the only way to stop such things is to use force right away before it gets out of hand...
Alchemist Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I think we need to get out of victim mentality. Everyone has one. Few people are going to spew dirt. We cannot react to all the dirt that's being thrown around. I am a Hindu and can say that worth of Shivaji and Thakrey was not lowered because of those posts, same way worth of Allah wasn't lowered by a cartoon.
dial_100 Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 I think we need to get out of victim mentality. Everyone has one. Few people are going to spew dirt. We cannot react to all the dirt that's being thrown around. I am a Hindu and can say that worth of Shivaji and Thakrey was not lowered because of those posts, same way worth of Allah wasn't lowered by a cartoon. +1 Shivaji was such great personality how can a post on FB affect his image. What they should have done was to file FIR and promptly find that idiot and send him to jail. End of the story. Killing some totally innocent guy is so barbaric. Why do we blame mughals for being barbaric. Isn't what happened was barbaric as well? I find it hard to justify the whole thing.
FischerTal Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 ridiculous, FIR for this. when will India grow up?
rkt.india Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 He was attacked because he was wearing a skull cap and returning from a Masjid. You are unable to distinguish correlation (Facebook posts) and causation here. Yes, now I got it. I thought the same person who posted on FB was killed. These people should be arrested and such groups must be banned. Govt. needs to send a strong message across that such things wont be tolerated.
rkt.india Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 ridiculous' date=' FIR for this. when will India grow up?[/quote'] This is Cyber law.
diga Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Yes' date=' now I got it. I thought the same person who posted on FB was killed. These people should be arrested and [b']such groups must be banned. Govt. needs to send a strong message across that such things wont be tolerated. there are some overzealous idiots who start these groups & just to further their political ambitions, indulge in these crazy things.. in this case the founder had close to 20 criminal cases against him. Not sure if the government took the threat seriously
rkt.india Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 maybe they were killed for posting **** on facebook? not cause they were muslim? I guessing if they were hindu and posted crap on facebook they would still be a target. This is what I meant but looks like there is something more to it.
rkt.india Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 People also must understand that defaming someone or posting derogatory things about people isn't freedom of expression. It is abuse of freedom of expression and the advice is that everyone must stay away from indulging in such activities, otherwise, this world is full of retards, some have their own agenda, who can cross all borders of insanity to show how they are the self-declared leaders to save their religion or community, etc.
Detonator Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Again, who is the CM of Maharastra? I cannot see a single mention abt Mr. Chauhan. Who gains by giving this issue a communal angle and try to win muslim votes?
AmreekanDesi Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 we've got a billion ppl. things like these happen from time to time. the fact that this got so much attention shows its a rare thing unlike some other countries where it doesnt even make the front page of the newspaper :giggle: as long as we learn from it and take enough steps to make sure this does not happen again, we;re good
urbestfriend Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Again, who is the CM of Maharastra? I cannot see a single mention abt Mr. Chauhan. Who gains by giving this issue a communal angle and try to win muslim votes? This is rhetoric at best..You are trying to shift the blame to government and police when a flash mob attacks and kills a man ? I see this very often blame is shifted to police and government for every crime that happens there..! We need to be considerate for police, mobilizing reserve forces is time consuming and if a flash mob does hooliganism on the street, we cant expect civil police to handle them..They are already overburdened..Some criticism is valid, but I see a trend of accusing every ills to police nowadays.. Also when did Muslim vote to BJP/Shivsena? If there is a communal polarization, it is definitely going to benifit SS/BJP , not other way..
bulbul Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 This is rhetoric at best..You are trying to shift the blame to government and police when a flash mob attacks and kills a man ? I see this very often blame is shifted to police and government for every crime that happens there..! We need to be considerate for police, mobilizing reserve forces is time consuming and if a flash mob does hooliganism on the street, we cant expect civil police to handle them..They are already overburdened..Some criticism is valid, but I see a trend of accusing every ills to police nowadays.. Also when did Muslim vote to BJP/Shivsena? If there is a communal polarization, it is definitely going to benifit SS/BJP , not other way.. Is this incident communal polarization?
G_B_ Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Is this incident communal polarization? as i said apparently the friend of the deceased Riyaz claims he was attacked for his skull cap. and the seculars on ICF get their panties in a twist and believe him. Move aside Quran, Bhagwat Gita , Vedas Bible Old and New Testament. Its Riyaz's words who we should follow.
bulbul Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 as i said apparently the friend of the deceased Riyaz claims he was attacked for his skull cap. and the seculars on ICF get their panties in a twist and believe him. Move aside Quran, Bhagwat Gita , Vedas Bible Old and New Testament. Its Riyaz's words who we should follow. Hope in future if we make such assumtpions on otehr side, fellow ICFrs will adjust & our posts wont get deleted . Why they didnt attacked Riyad,was he not wearing cap??
G_B_ Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 and this issue of communal polarization makes no sense they just won 42 out of 48 seats. Without any communal polarization. The elections are in a few months with momentum to take them to power. In particular Pune was won by the saffron combine with big margins. I can understand the argument if it was evenly split between the partners. Shivaji remains a massive icon within the Maratha community whose main party is Sharad Pawar's NCP. If the sena did not protest they certainly would have. The death of Munde will probably give them sympathy more than anything else.
G_B_ Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 Hope in future if we make such assumtpions on otehr side, fellow ICFrs will adjust & our posts wont get deleted . Why they didnt attacked Riyad,was he not wearing cap?? who the hell knows. The point is the seculars will jump to conclusions if people of certain communities start talking. For all we know this is a feud going back a long way as it appears the attack was organised based on what the police are claiming. The least we can do is wait for the police to investigate. Thats what any normal person would do.
Detonator Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 This is rhetoric at best..You are trying to shift the blame to government and police when a flash mob attacks and kills a man ? I see this very often blame is shifted to police and government for every crime that happens there..! We need to be considerate for police, mobilizing reserve forces is time consuming and if a flash mob does hooliganism on the street, we cant expect civil police to handle them..They are already overburdened..Some criticism is valid, but I see a trend of accusing every ills to police nowadays.. Also when did Muslim vote to BJP/Shivsena? If there is a communal polarization, it is definitely going to benifit SS/BJP , not other way.. You didn't get my post dood :winky: I was responding to the posts that were relating BJP/RSS's conspiracy theories. What the police were doing when the hate propangda and the photographs got circulated? No detail on the content till now.Shld wait for the police investigation.
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