Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[ABDfan]

17 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Statistically not. Indian fast bowlers had better ER, better average in the world cup.  This is despite having had to bowl under lights with wet ball in both key matches

 

If that makes you happy i am all for your hapiness

[ABDfan]

12 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Whicch team's fast bowlers have better average in the world cup from 1970s till 2022?  Can you take a wild guess?

Okay Which team's  fast bowler had better average in test cricket in year 2021? Any wild guess 

[ShoonyaSifar]

24 minutes ago, ABDfan said:

Nope but you missed the other probability that i consider Indian batting lineup superior to Pakistani batting in the particular case you are mentioning. By the way I admire your effort for cramming PSL stats

Do Pakistani school not teach logic and deduction?

[ABDfan]

3 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Do Pakistani school not teach logic and deduction?

That's too good to be understood by someone with "shoonya sifar zero" common sense

[vvvslaxman]

3 minutes ago, ABDfan said:

Okay Which team's  fast bowler had better average in test cricket in year 2021? Any wild guess 

 

This is completely off the topic. India as a unit has been outbowling most of the sides in the world in Tests for the last 5 years across the globe. This is without adding spinners into equation. If you exclude minnow teams like windies/BD Pakistan's fast bowling average was 37 in 2021.

[ABDfan]

26 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

This is completely off the topic. India as a unit has been outbowling most of the sides in the world in Tests for the last 5 years across the globe. This is without adding spinners into equation. If you exclude minnow teams like windies/BD Pakistan's fast bowling average was 37 in 2021.

Did you ignore the the Minnows for WCs

[vvvslaxman]

10 minutes ago, ABDfan said:

Did you ignore the the Minnows for WCs

 

 

Pakistan got to bowl to the same minnows as we belonged to the same group.

 

[ABDfan]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

Pakistan got to bowl to the same minnows as we belonged to the same group.

 

Yup the number of minnows was equal but did both teams bowl to same number of non minnow teams?

[Axl100mph]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Statistically not. Indian fast bowlers had better ER, better average in the world cup.  This is despite having had to bowl under lights with wet ball in both key matches

 

So you dont count the 7 extra wickets?

 

[vvvslaxman]

57 minutes ago, ABDfan said:

Yup the number of minnows was equal but did both teams bowl to same number of non minnow teams?

 

then we have to distinguish bowling first, bowling second. Pakistan got lucky with toss. Got exposed when they got to face 6th ranked T20 side when they bowled second.  

[vvvslaxman]

24 minutes ago, Axl100mph said:

So you dont count the 7 extra wickets?

 

you played one extra match duh?

[Jay]

6 hours ago, ABDfan said:

Rohit was dismissed for duck actually Kohli tried to bring India back in the game in the latest encounter between the two teams. 

I meant as captain. Remember what happened last time in odi wc when rohit played ?

[ABDfan]

13 hours ago, Jay said:

I meant as captain. Remember what happened last time in odi wc when rohit played ?

But wasn't Kohli the captain in that match?

[ABDfan]

17 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

you played one extra match duh?

Lol  so why don't you use minnow filter as we didn't play equall number of tests but you used minnow filter there but to manipulate stats at one instant you are using filter and not on the other.

[Jay]

7 minutes ago, ABDfan said:

Lol  so why don't you use minnow filter as we didn't play equall number of tests but you used minnow filter there but to manipulate stats at one instant you are using filter and not on the other.

Pakistan is the best. We are not good enough at the moment. We are rebuilding. When we rebuild properly, I think we have the ability to shock the world. No one really cares about t20 WC tbh but it is what it is. Let's see some good youngins step up. Our old cunts keep hogging the spots.

[Rightarmfast]

 

 

What a legend this bowler was. Bowling 140+ even at the fag end of his career. What a beauty!

[Jay]

21 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

 

 

What a legend this bowler was. Bowling 140+ even at the fag end of his career. What a beauty!

Put him next to wasim, he would average under 25 just like Waqar. He is very underrated in all formats. 

 

One thing Pakistanis dont understand is team dynamics. Bowling works in pairs. You also need one good support bowler to help you average under 25. If your support bowler leaks runs, your strike bowler will be forced to takeover and fatigue themselves in the process. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, ABDfan said:

Lol  so why don't you use minnow filter as we didn't play equall number of tests but you used minnow filter there but to manipulate stats at one instant you are using filter and not on the other.

 

Well you have to factor in batting first/ batting second then lol  Batting second overwhelmingly favored one team. Australia who has not even been that good a T20 side , got canned in first round against England, managed to bulldoze both NZ and Pakistan into submission purely by winning the toss. Same happened with pakistan. Won the toss both times in the preliminary rounds.

[speed_thrills]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

 

 

What a legend this bowler was. Bowling 140+ even at the fag end of his career. What a beauty!

Wow!! If he was bowling upto 144k in 2003, I am sure he must have consistently bowled 150k in 1996-99 period. 

 

One of the fastest bowler ever.

[Chakdephatte]

https://sportstar.thehindu.com/cricket/venkatesh-iyer-set-to-bowl-faster-with-an-eye-on-t20-world-cup/article38434820.ece

 

Despite not having a confirmed place in the XI, he is trying to improve his bowling. Determined player.

@Suhaan, @Mosher, @express bowling