Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Pollack]

7 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

no, you are wrong.  he has bowled mostly good length.

No, you are wrong. He has bowled short of a good length. 

[Mosher]

Another edge off Bumrah falls short of slips  

[express bowling]

Bumrah consistently angling the ball in and seaming the ball away often enough ...  often with steep bounce.

 

Has bowled quite a few such  jaffas.

 

Bowling a good line after lunch.

[rkt.india]

11 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

So in 2 months he's become a swing bowler, will he swing it in Aus?

Ishant could swing the ball when he started, mostly inswing. Did you watch him 2008-2009? and then he lost his seam and wrist position as he tried to emulate Zak's bowling style and lost his action. Then he did get his action back but seam position was still not the best, but he is getting it back now.

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Another edge off Bumrah falls short of slips  

There has been 5 edges off Bumrah, including a top edge,  not taken or not carrying.

[rkt.india]

9 minutes ago, Clarke said:

Good to see Bumrah back & hurrying the batsmen. 

 

He seems to bowl mostly with the scrambled seam though, hence not getting consistent movement.

that wobbly seam, not scramebled

[R!TTER]

Just now, rkt.india said:

Ishant could swing the ball when he started, mostly inswing. Did you watch him 2008-2009? and then he lost his seam and wrist position as he tried to emulate Zak's bowling style and lost his action. Then he did get his action back but seam position was still not the best, but he is getting it back now.

He was still a seam bowler, a swing bowler generally bowls full or at least fullish length most of the time. How many times have you seen Sharma do that in nearly 12 years of his shoddy career? Even seam bowlers get swing if they bowl full enough, does that make Mcgrath, Gillespie, Walsh, Ambrose swing bowlers?

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Ishant bowling some big inswingers now.  

If only he can start from the 6th stump and end up on the 4th to off stump.

 

He is ending up down the leg.

[Clarke]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

that wobbly seam, not scramebled

yeah, that! 

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, Pollack said:

No, you are wrong. He has bowled short of a good length. 

arey bhai check kar lo hawkeye data. Because his quick, few will always be in short areas, but most of them are in good length.  i consistent check hawkeye data.  i had even posted the image in match thread after 1st session. 

 

here is that image again.  mostly in the 6-8 meters that is good length.

[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

He was still a seam bowler, a swing bowler generally bowls full or at least fullish length most of the time. How many times have you seen Sharma do that in nearly 12 years of his shoddy career? Even seam bowlers get swing if they bowl full enough, does that make Mcgrath, Gillespie, Walsh, Ambrose swing bowlers?

He did in early part of his career.  I never said he was a swing bowler. He was a fast bowler who could swing the ball when he started.  

[R!TTER]

Just now, rkt.india said:

He did in early part of his career.  I never said he was a swing bowler. He was a fast bowler who could swing the ball when he started.  

Just answer this, his strength was seam or swing? He was never a fast bowler beyond a year or 2 in his overrated career.

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Just answer this, his strength was seam or swing? He was never a fast bowler beyond a year or 2 in his overrated career.

very difficult to say what his strength was, TBH, because he never did anything consistently.  Even today, we dont know whether he strength is seam or swing.  Look at this one.  This is swing, not seam.  He actually could do both then depending on conditions as swing requires suitable conditions.

 

 

[R!TTER]

Just now, rkt.india said:

very difficult to say what his strength was, TBH, because he never did anything consistently.  Even today, we dont know whether he strength is seam or swing.  Look at this one.  This is swing, not seam.  He actually could do both then depending on conditions as swing requires suitable conditions.

 

 

Absolutely, that's why I said he can't swing it in unfavorable conditions. Unlike say Pathan, Praveen Kumar, Umesh or the injured Kumar. He's probably the biggest scourge of Indian (test) cricket in the last decade, strangely Kohli loves all his Sharmas and hates the Yadavs 

[express bowling]

Pandya gets Root first ball.

 

It was a good line and length bowled by him.

 

England  86  for 4

[Nikola]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

Pandya gets Root first ball.

 

It was a good line and length bowled by him.

 

England  86  for 4

it looked not out to be fair.

[rkt.india]

2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Absolutely, that's why I said he can't swing it in unfavorable conditions. Unlike say Pathan, Praveen Kumar, Umesh or the injured Kumar. He's probably the biggest scourge of Indian (test) cricket in the last decade, strangely Kohli loves all his Sharmas and hates the Yadavs 

no one can swing it in the unfavorable conditions.  Not even Anderson or Kumar.

[express bowling]

1 minute ago, Nikola said:

it looked not out to be fair.

 

Looked out to me.

 

The ball bounced on his fingers and lodged in his palm.

[R!TTER]

Just now, rkt.india said:

no one can swing it in the unfavorable conditions.  Not even Anderson or Kumar.

And here I thought finally we'd agree over something, then you go on and exaggerate. With the new ball, it's possible to swing it in the first few overs. Umesh in first ODI being the perfect example.

[Nikola]

Even pandya got wicket on first ball. Shami should be shameful of his performance.