Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Suhaan]

Just now, rkt.india said:

Nagarkoti is knee dominant

No,he isnt

He is among the rare bowlers who are hip dominant side on bowler

[rkt.india]

52 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

No,he isnt

He is among the rare bowlers who are hip dominant side on bowler

Possibly, that's why now he is trying his backfoot to land mid-way instead of parallel to the crease. Side on position is always going to land him in a problem.

[Suhaan]

35 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Possibly, that's why now he is trying his backfoot to land mid-way instead of parallel to the crease. Side on position is always going to land him in a problem.

What do you think aiut Khalleels run-up?Is there anything he's lacking there?

Thought he has problem there, i cant figure it out yet, trying to find

What do you reckon?

[vishalvirsingh]

Probably Umesh , Siraj, Bumrah and Shardul would have got some good rest as Indian batting is Plyaing well and they have got 2 nights to sleep, this good night sleep and time to relax can be magic to fast bowlers.

i expect pacers to come back in full form and full pace. Pitch has turned flat so i feel Indian batters have to give them a cushion of 350 runs. 350 will create some Pressure and english batsman will not know whether to play to draw the game or score runs.

story in Oval is quite crazy, some times ball swings a lot if the weather changes else it is a flat wicket. also new ball creates a lot of bounce and hence gets wickets. in this test, we have seen the ball swinging big time by some bowlers and some times it is a flat wicket.

one cannot judge much as if a batsman gets out during the swinging conditions , you cant say he is out of form.

[vishalvirsingh]

8 hours ago, Vijy said:

Yes. We do not need to be unduly concerned about pace bowling - Tyagi, Avesh, Prasidh are all 25-26 or less and Boom is 27. the real issues in the future will be batting and spin bowling

India will never run short of batting talent. there are few reasons.

when i started batting against leather bowl, , i realised pacers were not getting the ball to bounce much , 90 percent balls were under my knee so i started playing at front foot and driven too n sqare cut too.

 

most pitches in india are friendly n help batters improve their batting. thats how i improved. once their batting improves , they try to bat in green pitches too. but yes swinging english conditions are not available so our batsman wont play well in swinging conditions. but india will always have 15 batsman good enough to bat anywhere in the world except england and newxzealand as both these countries ball swings.

indian bowlers r not as tall as foreign fast bowlers and so we do not have an edge over others in fast bowling.

[rkt.india]

 

 

 

 

[Suhaan]

22 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

 

 

 

Cant decipher what exactly was his action back then with the quality of the footage

[Suhaan]

27 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

 

 

 

 

Here is one footage where it doesn't look different,uploader says its from his u19 days but it more seems like from his u23 days

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/6GGcTQUaze0?feature=share

Edited September 5, 2021 by Suhaan

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Here is one footage where it doesn't look different,uploader says its from his u19 days but it more seems like from his u23 days

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/6GGcTQUaze0?feature=share

Bumrah made his IPL debut in 2013 at 19 and is using similar action since then.

Edited September 5, 2021 by rkt.india

[Nikhil_cric]

Ollie robinson bowling around 130 mph but still posing questions with his length and high release. 

[rkt.india]

12 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Ollie robinson bowling around 130 mph but still posing questions with his length and high release. 

He gets bounce from that length with movement.

[Vijy]

6 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

India will never run short of batting talent. there are few reasons.

when i started batting against leather bowl, , i realised pacers were not getting the ball to bounce much , 90 percent balls were under my knee so i started playing at front foot and driven too n sqare cut too.

 

most pitches in india are friendly n help batters improve their batting. thats how i improved. once their batting improves , they try to bat in green pitches too. but yes swinging english conditions are not available so our batsman wont play well in swinging conditions. but india will always have 15 batsman good enough to bat anywhere in the world except england and newxzealand as both these countries ball swings.

indian bowlers r not as tall as foreign fast bowlers and so we do not have an edge over others in fast bowling.

we need batsmen who'll do well in NZ and Eng too - neither of these teams are minnows, and any good team should attempt to win there. we have failed quite miserably in both places in last several years.

[express bowling]

Bumrah getting good bounce but is bowling a touch wide in his first 2 overs.

 

Needs to make the batsman play more

 

 

Edited September 5, 2021 by express bowling

[Vijy]

Just now, express bowling said:

Bumrah getting goid bounce but is bowling a touch wide in his first 2 overs.

 

Needs to make the batsman play more

 

 

yes, he has looked very unthreatening so far

[Mosher]

Siraj 125kph. He needs to be rested next match.

[Suhaan]

2 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Siraj 125kph. He needs to be rested next match.

Aise kaise hoga,better shut the door and leave

[speedheat]

Siraj trundling 132kph

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Siraj 125kph. He needs to be rested next match.

he is approaching praveen kumar territory, with not the same degree of swing

[Mosher]

Siraj 138kph. Much better speeds now. 

[Vijy]

Just now, Mosher said:

Siraj 138kph. Much better speeds now. 

still looks pretty rusty though. must be rested next test.