Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[tapandrun]

37 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Problem with having both Prasidh and Siraj in the playing 11 in ODIs is that none of them have death bowling skills. Siraj is not a middle over enforcer either.

 

Siraj's inclusion in the 11 only makes sense if Bumrah is unavailable and they need some experience. But Siraj is not that experienced in ODIs either.

 

 

Have mentioned this on other threads Ind needed a pacer who could bat and a high pace bowler for the wc playing 11 along with a LH batter in mo who can bowl a bit.

But due to lack of overall odis and planing Ind is looking a stalling side.

 

[Suhaan]

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Tyagi is injured again?  Why is he at the coe?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Someone please remove Gambhir as coach 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

14 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Harshit is No.8. bowling allrounder.

 

Should not compete with Gurnoor, who is being used as a middle over enforcer by TM. Harshit, with a string of 3 recent injuries, can't be an enforcer now. 

 

If Siraj goes, he should replace either Arshdeep or Prasidh, both of whom are being used as new ball bowlers by TM.

 

 

■■  TMs assigned roles in recent ODIs ....

 

■  New ball bowlers  .... 

 

Bumrah 

Prasidh 

Arshdeep 

Siraj  ( not played recently )

 

■  Middle over enforcer 

 

Gurnoor 

 

■  Death over bowler

 

Bumrah

Arshdeep 

Harshit

 

■  No.8 bowling allrounder 

 

Harshit 

 

 

Which means

 

Bumrah 

Gurnoor 

Arshdeep 

Harshit 

 

must be there to cover different roles.

 

And only one among Prasidh or Siraj can be there.

 

This logic must be followed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Harshit is a nothing burger except having Gambhir s backing 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

14 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Sakib as much as he has played this season he has shown enough tricks needed in t20s ,has deceptive slower ones ,cutters and decent shapish pace to survive this format,looked better than overrated Prince

can u tell more about gabba2021

[express bowling]

34 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Harshit is a nothing burger except having Gambhir s backing 

 

Harshit has picked 26 wickets from 14 ODIs. Bowling average of 27.

 

Plus batting average of almost 25.

 

When he was fit, he was bowling 135 k to 147 k with bounce, seam movement and good enough accuracy.

 

Problem was his weight and belly fat which led to injuries.

 

 

[Vk1]

30 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Harshit has picked 26 wickets from 14 ODIs. Bowling average of 27.

 

Plus batting average of almost 25.

 

When he was fit, he was bowling 135 k to 147 k with bounce, seam movement and good enough accuracy.

 

Problem was his weight and belly fat which led to injuries.

 

 

we are not appreciative of the rare earth Indian mineral called a 140k+ pacer who can hit sixes

Edited September 11 by Vk1

[Manucrick]

34 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

we are not appreciative of the rare earth Indian mineral called a 140k+ pacer who can hit sixes

People hate him for no reason he Miles better than prasidh 

[rkt.india]

My body doesn't handle long breaks well' - Siraj on losing and rediscovering his rhythm

 

 

https://www.cricinfo.com/story/duleep-trophy-final-india-fast-bowler-mohammed-siraj-on-losing-and-rediscovering-his-rhythm-1553710

 

 

 

Edited September 11 by rkt.india

[putrevus]

6 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Harshit is a nothing burger except having Gambhir s backing 

Spot on , It is inexcusable for this guy to remain so fat and unfit even after having all the facilities.

 

His batting should not a factor for his selection.His Economy is 6.21 and he huffs and puffs to complete even his ten overs.I don't think he has ability to maintain speeds which are 140 at best..

 

Edited September 11 by putrevus

[express bowling]

Bumrah  bowling with a longer run up. 

 

Gets a wicket 3rd ball with a rising ball. 

 

 

[ind_hyd1]

What were Bumeah's speeds

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, ind_hyd1 said:

What were Bumeah's speeds

 

 

129 k to 138 k.

 

He was not bowling full throttle. Just easing back after injury.

 

 

[tapandrun]

46 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

129 k to 138 k.

 

He was not bowling full throttle. Just easing back after injury.

 

 

 

He has to pick a format now. can not play all 3 

 

[Suhaan]

56 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

129 k to 138 k.

 

He was not bowling full throttle. Just easing back after injury.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

He has to pick a format now. can not play all 3 

 

I think he has maybe given up on redball as of now,maybe after the main event ,he will phase himself out by playing red ball

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

He has to pick a format now. can not play all 3 

 

 

 

Bumrah has played just 2 ODIs in the last 34 months and 0 tests in 2026.

 

Just playing T20s mostly this year and even there he has bowled full tilt in only a handful of big games.

 

Any less cricket and he would lose pace and bowling fitness permanently.

 

 

[singhvivek141]

10 hours ago, Suhaan said:

 

I think he has maybe given up on redball as of now,maybe after the main event ,he will phase himself out by playing red ball

 

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Bumrah has played just 2 ODIs in the last 34 months and 0 tests in 2026.

 

Just playing T20s mostly this year and even there he has bowled full tilt in only a handful of big games.

 

Any less cricket and he would lose pace and bowling fitness permanently.

 

 

 

I personally dont think Bumrah will call off red ball so soon. He will play atleast till the completion of current WTC (wc to be corrected). His fitness is the key though.

 

If any, he has bowled slow overall this year in T20s...even in IPL he was trundling for majority part. But in ODIs he was hovering at 140s, probably he is taking things light in T20s against weaker opposition. He in one of the interview even said that he has decided when to push his body to the limit and when not to. 

 

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

15 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

He has to pick a format now. can not play all 3 

 

H e will play tests and odis till next years wc then odi retirement and only tests and ipl then till t20 wc then t20i retirement 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

On 9/11/2026 at 2:16 AM, tapandrun said:

 

They have been developing pradish for this wc, he is playing all 3 formats for a reason. they want him in the wc.

With lack of exp. do not think that they would want either(gurnoor or pradish ) of them be the 2nd pacer. Siraj will be added to the side , the toss-up will be Gurnoor or  Rana. Arsh will be for LA varity.

 

 

He is playing all 3 formats because of Gambhir, nothing else, once Gambhir goes, no one will pick Prasidh  he will become unprasidh