Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Suhaan]

6 minutes ago, maniac said:

All Pakistan bowlers including Shaheen bowl in low 130’s in second spells or the longer a test match goes. They are rapid in T20 no doubt. Never seen Rauf in tests but I think he will have consistent pace.

Naseems pace was dud last match,Pandya looked more threatening and pacy than him

Shame the celebrated(self proclaimed)pace attack of their barring Rauf couldn't go past our trundlers much

Edited October 25, 2022 by Suhaan

[the don]

3 minutes ago, maniac said:

All Pakistan bowlers including Shaheen bowl in low 130’s in second spells or the longer a test match goes. They are rapid in T20 no doubt. Never seen Rauf in tests but I think he will have consistent pace.

Cricviz data places naseem as one of the 5 fastest test bowlers in terms of average pace, so he clearly maintains his pace. The data is there for consumption.

[the don]

1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Naseems pace was dud last match,Pandya looked more threatening and pacy than him

Shame the celebrated(self proclaimed)pace attack of their barring Rauf couldn't go past Pandya's

No it wasnt, he bowled beautifully last match and was way quicker in terms of average.

[Suhaan]

Just now, the don said:

Cricviz data places naseem as one of the 5 fastest test bowlers in terms of average pace, so he clearly maintains his pace. The data is there for consumption.

He has played very little,let him play more

 

[the don]

Hasaranga seems like a slow pitch bowler.

[Suhaan]

Just now, the don said:

No it wasnt, he bowled beautifully last match and was way quicker in terms of average.

Repeat these lines in your mind to cope with it

[the don]

1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

He has played very little,let him play more

 

The data covers several years.

[maniac]

6 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Naseems pace was dud last match,Pandya looked more threatening and pacy than him

Shame the celebrated(self proclaimed)pace attack of their barring Rauf couldn't go past Pandya's

Naseem is a good bowler because he is young, has some natural ability and a bright future. Rohit and Rahul when they played fearless cricket almost were in the process of ending the hype in the second Asia cup game.

 

He still has a looooong way to go. Given how things work in Pakistan let’s see where he will be in 3-4 years from now. As an Indian we would love to have a talent like Naseeem. That’s a fact. However he isn’t the best thing since slice bread like @the don is making him out to be.

 

You never know where he will end up especially in a country Pakistan. 

Edited October 25, 2022 by maniac

[the don]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

Naseem is a good bowler because he is young, has some natural ability and a bright future. Rohit and Rahul when they played fearless cricket almost were in the process of ending the hype in the second Asia cup game.

 

He still has a looooong way to go. Given how things work in Pakistan let’s see where he will be in 3-4 years from now. As an Indian we would love to have a talent like Naseeem. That’s a fact. However he isn’t the best thing since slice bread like @the don is making him out to be.

 

You never know where he will end up especially in a country Pakistan. 

I have always rated him and he has finally found a stock ball, with his new ball skills he will do well more often than not if he remains injury free.

[Suhaan]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

Naseem is a good bowler because he is young, has some natural ability and a bright future. Rohit and Rahul when they played fearless cricket almost were in the process of ending the hype in the second Asia cup game.

 

He still has a looooong way to go. Given how things work in Pakistan let’s see where he will be in 3-4 years from now. As an Indian we would love to have a talent like Naseeem. That’s a fact. However he isn’t the best thing since slice bread like @the don is making him out to be.

 

You never know where he will end up especially in a country Pakistan. 

There are his figures for his last match,

I wont argue on his bowling performance,but the said poster and his fellow countrymen keep propping up here with only purpose to troll using "pace" of the current bowlers from both sides

Despite knowing we have taken most number of trundlers there,

That was just the chest thumping i was pointing at they had for past few weeks

Pacewise i have seen Naseem ,he is no special in that regard ,we have far more quickers merchants out here in Sen,Umran,Tyagi and others

So this lot in this forum ,should have some shame and stop bragging about it all the time

[the don]

Pakistan should play hasnain/ wasim at perth in place of Asif Ali. Even Australia have struggled with the pace and bounce here.

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

There are his figures for his last match,

I wont argue on his bowling performance,but the said poster and his fellow countrymen keep propping up here with only purpose to troll using "pace" of the current bowlers from both sides

Despite knowing we have taken most number of trundlers there,

That was just the chest thumping i was pointing at they had for past few weeks

Pacewise i have seen Naseem ,he is no special in that regard ,we have far more quickers merchants out here in Sen,Umran,Tyagi and others

So this lot in this forum ,should have some shame and stop bragging about it all the time

Let them. That’s where we get comedy and masala from

[express bowling]

43 minutes ago, the don said:

Cricviz data places naseem as one of the 5 fastest test bowlers in terms of average pace, so he clearly maintains his pace. The data is there for consumption.

 

I think this data was after his first test series in Australia when Naseem was bowling 140 k to 147 k consistently. It covered many years but most of them were before his debut. 

 

After that series, he has been up and down in terms of pace in tests. Bowled 135 k to 145 k vs Australia in Pakistan But was much slower earlier vs NZ and later vs SL.

 

 

Edited October 25, 2022 by express bowling

[express bowling]

37 minutes ago, the don said:

No it wasnt, he bowled beautifully last match and was way quicker in terms of average.

 

 

As a fast bowling fan, I was actually a bit disappointed with the way Naseem bowled.

 

And as an Indian fan I liked the way he was bowling.  He wasn't really making the ball fly on a bouncy and fast pitch. 

 

Rauf was the pacer I was uncomfortable with as an Indian fan. 

 

I got the feeling that Naseem was looking to stop runs primarily.

 

[Lone Wolf]

27 minutes ago, the don said:

Pakistan should play hasnain/ wasim at perth in place of Asif Ali. Even Australia have struggled with the pace and bounce here.

Wasim is pathetic...  At least lassan ali can move it...  He bowls gun barrel straight. 

Hasnain would be perfect for Perth 

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Wasim is pathetic...  

 

What are Wasim's speeds ?

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, the don said:

Pakistan should play hasnain/ wasim at perth in place of Asif Ali. Even Australia have struggled with the pace and bounce here.

rather haider ali, they shud go for wasim . He ll provide better death bowling option nd he can bat too 

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 hours ago, the don said:

Pakistan should play hasnain/ wasim at perth in place of Asif Ali. Even Australia have struggled with the pace and bounce here.

 

why has pakistan not invested in Faheem ashraf when they knew the Wc was in Aus ?? 

 

[the don]

1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

why has pakistan not invested in Faheem ashraf when they knew the Wc was in Aus ?? 

 

Faheem ashrafs form has completely deserted him in domestics. Even tho he is a good player of short bowling but he did not bowl well enough and got injured too.

[Rightarmfast]

15 hours ago, the don said:

He was bowling 140 kph in tests vs australia in unforgiving Pakistani conditions.

Naseem has a lot more in the tank. He came on the scene as a 146-146 kph bowler but has focussed on a stock delivery, will get quicker in a year or two.

Bhai, I have seen him. He doesnt reach the high pace in tests you are talking about. I think you people have forgotten about the Aussie series when it became a rather embarassment for Pakistan team at the kind of pace bowlers were bowling at. 

 

But lets see. Lets wait a few years. I would be more than happy if he performs consistently or goes faster than what he is now. Experience tells me, he will not.