Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[singhvivek141]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Can definitely work in Perth.  Day 1 Perth is absolute fine to bat with little help but as soon as Sun beats down & cracks open up it is heaven for Hit the deck Bowling... Someone like Shami's height was who is not a hit the deck pacer by any means was bowling rip snorters there on day 3.  Imagine Mayank who is a natural hit the deck pacer & bowls above 90-92mph.

That would be ideal.

Let's see if they maintain hierarchy or go for the jugular straight up.

 

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

It can work in Perth and Brisbane.

 

Remember Shami in Perth in late 2018. 

 

Bowl Mayank in 4 short spells of 3 overs each. 

If Mayank has to play, then we need to ensure Akash and Harshit are part of XI as well.
Both Perth and Brisbane are traditionally pace friendly pitches with little to zero support for the spinners. Which means we need to go only with one of Jadeja/Axar at no 7.
From 8-11 you need to have 2 fast bowlers capable of batting, Akash and Harshit will have to bat at no 8 and 9 (or vice versa) while accomodating Mayank and Bumrah at 10/11.
This knock off Siraj from the XI.. as he is a dud with the bat.
4 pacer attack will allow Mayank to be himself and bowl in short burts hitting 145-150k. Bumrah & Akash are capable of bowling long spells.

[express bowling]

59 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

If Mayank has to play, then we need to ensure Akash and Harshit are part of XI as well.
Both Perth and Brisbane are traditionally pace friendly pitches with little to zero support for the spinners. Which means we need to go only with one of Jadeja/Axar at no 7.
From 8-11 you need to have 2 fast bowlers capable of batting, Akash and Harshit will have to bat at no 8 and 9 (or vice versa) while accomodating Mayank and Bumrah at 10/11.
This knock off Siraj from the XI.. as he is a dud with the bat.
4 pacer attack will allow Mayank to be himself and bowl in short burts hitting 145-150k. Bumrah & Akash are capable of bowling long spells.

 

We play a 4 man pace attack anyway these days in SENA except in Sydney type venues.

Edited October 16, 2024 by express bowling

[Lord]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

We play a 4 man pace attack anyway these days in SENA except in Sydney type venues.

 

But 4th pacer is someone like Thakur who can bat at 8. Not sure Harshit is there yet. Nitish Reddy might qualify more for that.

[ind_hyd1]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

But 4th pacer is someone like Thakur who can bat at 8. Not sure Harshit is there yet. Nitish Reddy might qualify more for that.

I don't think Nitish is yet ready for test cricket. Better have Harshit who is a superior bowler

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

But 4th pacer is someone like Thakur who can bat at 8. Not sure Harshit is there yet. Nitish Reddy might qualify more for that.

Do you still have confidence on Shardul of 24 like shardul of 2020/21? For his batting

 

[Lord]

Just now, Suhaan said:

Do you still have confidence on Shardul of 24 like shardul of 2020/21? For his batting

 

 

no.

[Need4Speed]

I hope they dont go with Siraj in the xi by seniority..they shud see how he bowls against NZ in this series

[express bowling]

4 hours ago, Lord said:

 

But 4th pacer is someone like Thakur who can bat at 8. Not sure Harshit is there yet. Nitish Reddy might qualify more for that.

 

Harshit can bat at 8.

 

Reddy is not a proper bowler unless it is a very lively pitch like Gabba, where his slow pace may get mitigated. 

[singhvivek141]

4 hours ago, Lord said:

 

But 4th pacer is someone like Thakur who can bat at 8. Not sure Harshit is there yet. Nitish Reddy might qualify more for that.

That's where we need both Harshit & Akashdeep to compensate.

Together at no 8-9 they can contribute some runs.

[express bowling]

16 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

That's where we need both Harshit & Akashdeep to compensate.

Together at no 8-9 they can contribute some runs.

 

We can easily go with this lineup in some tests

 

7. Jadeja

8. Harshit 

9. Akashdeep 

10. Bumrah 

11. Siraj

 

Our strongest bowling attack possible in Australia 24.

 

Issue would be rotation in a 5 test series. 

 

If we want fresh pacers in every test, we won't be able to sustain this lineup in every test or even for more than 2 tests. 

Edited October 16, 2024 by express bowling

[express bowling]

O'Rourke bowling 131 k to 141 k with steep bounce from a high release point. 

[express bowling]

How silly of us to go with only 2 quicks in these conditions. Overcast conditions and rain are expected on almost all days. 

Edited October 17, 2024 by express bowling

[MK55]

O'Rourke softens Bumrah with a body blow and gets him out next ball. 
The Indian batters look scared batting here. They just cant handle any bounce

[MK55]

Just now, express bowling said:

How silly of us to go with 2 quicks in these conditions. Overcast conditions and rain are expected on almost all days. 

especially when so much time has already been lost. Cant get more brainless that that. Also, that was probably the only way NZ could ever win.

[express bowling]

India desperately needs a tall bounce bowler like O'Rourke.

 

It adds a different challenge for the batters. 

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, express bowling said:

O'Rourke bowling 131 k to 141 k with steep bounce from a high release point. 

Saw one at 142.xx

[MK55]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

India desperately needs a tall bounce bowler like O'Rourke.

 

It adds a different challenge for the batters. 

The way they were batting, probably any seam bowler in the world would have got them out cheaply today.

[MK55]

O'Rourke increasing his pace now. Watching Siraj's body language and technique would have influenced it lol

Edited October 17, 2024 by MK55

[Lord]

10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

India desperately needs a tall bounce bowler like O'Rourke.

 

It adds a different challenge for the batters. 

 

Mayank hopefully. Else Prasidh is only other choice.

[MK55]

LOL whats with this fascination with reducing run-ups and run-up speeds. WTF
Now Siraj has done the same. Bowling in the low to mid 130s so far.