Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Lone Wolf]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Yudhvir bowls heavy ball, with his height and strong physique, he is able to impart seam movement along with bounce.

 

He is another unfortunate case where the numbers don't justify how skillful he is. Plus is a good fielder and has good ability to bat, looks like a slogger but has good stability on the crease and hitting range.

 

Basically he is improved version of Avesh Khan, who for some reason is apple in the eyes of our selectors.

The guy is a potential pick not the one where you look at stats or anything.. he would have been nurtured if he was from a SENA country. 

Hopefully he gets consistent opportunities at IPL level.  Mohsin played over him majority of the season based on past reputation & he was seriously unfit and lacked pace.

Edited October 29, 2024 by Lone Wolf

[singhvivek141]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

The guy is a potential pick not the one where you look at stats or anything.. he would have been nurtured if he was from a SENA country. 

Hopefully he gets consistent opportunities at IPL level.  Mohsin played over him majority of the season based on past reputation & he was seriously unfit and lacked pace.

Mohsin's fitness is even poorer than Mayank. That guy is like Khali, if he falls down on the ground once, its all over.

 

Mohsin this IPL season was uber pathetic, simply bowling half tracker which the batters were depositing into the stands. He has variations, gets bounce, but is simply too lethargic to make any use of it on consistent basis.

[tapandrun]

36 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Mohsin's fitness is even poorer than Mayank. That guy is like Khali, if he falls down on the ground once, its all over.

 

Mohsin this IPL season was uber pathetic, simply bowling half tracker which the batters were depositing into the stands. He has variations, gets bounce, but is simply too lethargic to make any use of it on consistent basis.

He was not most agile and fast mover pre-injury , after injury he lost the pace and zip.

At one time there were doubts that he will ever play cricket, gaining weight during such injury is normal, if he would have not got that injury he was 1st choice over umran and singh. think of that situation he was so close to Ind cap and suddenly something like that happens.

 

right now he is nowhere near that pace , he is kind of fading shadow of that version, think he just made a comeback without getting into shape and working on his pace, right now he too seems to be content as long as he gets ipl contract

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 29, 2024 by tapandrun

[Need4Speed]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

 

 

right now he is nowhere near that pace , he is kind of fading shadow of that version, think he just made a comeback without getting into shape and working on his pace, right now he too seems to be content as long as he gets ipl contract

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

feels same to me..hope he proves us wrong though..

Edited October 29, 2024 by Need4Speed

[Need4Speed]

3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Yudhvir's 5fer vs Services @singhvivek141

 

looks fast but what a green carpet there lol..

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Ranji decks have been made green seamer type for a while now.

Reason why mukki Koomar had astonishing numbers playing on Green tops of Eden.

They are forced to make green top..to cover his gutka red spits.. :D

[Suhaan]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Read it too.

 

Selectors wanted Mukesh or Saini because of eggsperience. Gambhir said that Harshit is faster and younger.

 

It's like the selectors have no eye for talent and just pick based on eggsperience or stats. Their true choices are reflected in the T20I squad and travelling reserves.

Agarkar when was an outsider used to talk big with Johnny Bravo like chest

After becoming chief selector he has become idiot and blind

[Mosher]

8 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

This is Maaaaaaassssive @express bowling @Mosher @singhvivek141

Harshit Debut loading perhaps 

 

 

[tapandrun]

5 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Deshpande is fast but erratic. You will absolutely won't want such bowlers whose mere presence will end the preference for looking for fast bowlers. Plus I really doubt Deshpande is fit enough to bowl such speeds in tests. He looks one extra chapati away of entering into unfit category.

 

Vyshak is next Ashok Dinda, gives everything while bowling but sadly don't have the engine behind to hit high speeds. He can bowl long spells like a workhorse and will always be coming at you, but thats where his utility ends. Heard he is decent batter as well.

Yes he is bit erratic, think he worked on his fitness looked in shape, agree with not being able to bowl at same IPL/t20 speeds in test.

There is no point in nt trying some1 who is quick and has some domestic exp. and has kind of attribute that works in Ind skiddy and fast and he a bowl some yorkers too.

 

Right now Ind is down to 1 pacer effectively and you do not want Bhumrah to go Srinath's why where he is over-bowled to dust need to create any many back-ups as possible, now on bhumrah should only play high profile series and tournaments.

 

 

 

 

 

[ind_hyd1]

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/indias-156-7-kmph-pace-sensation-mayank-yadav-out-of-action-for-few-months-report-reveals-reason-6902124/amp/1

[Need4Speed]

13 hours ago, tapandrun said:

He was not most agile and fast mover pre-injury , after injury he lost the pace and zip.

At one time there were doubts that he will ever play cricket, gaining weight during such injury is normal, if he would have not got that injury he was 1st choice over umran and singh. think of that situation he was so close to Ind cap and suddenly something like that happens.

 

right now he is nowhere near that pace , he is kind of fading shadow of that version, think he just made a comeback without getting into shape and working on his pace, right now he too seems to be content as long as he gets ipl contract

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just watched Shubhankar Mishra's podcast with Mohsin..he mentioned he himself knows..his pace got reduced..he said..the doctors said there are 3 heads in triceps..and as of now after operation of his left arm..2 have come up..and 3rd one will soon come up..and he believes he will start hitting the original pace..

Lets hope it happens..

 

watch at 13:18

 

 

[express bowling]

 

Umran Malik was initially selected for the prestigious Duleep Trophy this season. However, he fell ill with dengue, which forced him out of the tournament. Upon recovering, he faced additional setbacks, including a toe injury, followed by a hamstring issue. After dealing with these injuries, Malik experienced discomfort in his left hip during bowling, leading to consultations with various specialists.
Scans revealed a stress fracture in his left hip, which is an unusual injury for a player of his calibre.

[SandeepMotta]

Whats the news about Shami? How far is he from being fit?

[Lord]

43 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Umran Malik was initially selected for the prestigious Duleep Trophy this season. However, he fell ill with dengue, which forced him out of the tournament. Upon recovering, he faced additional setbacks, including a toe injury, followed by a hamstring issue. After dealing with these injuries, Malik experienced discomfort in his left hip during bowling, leading to consultations with various specialists.
Scans revealed a stress fracture in his left hip, which is an unusual injury for a player of his calibre.

 

How are these guys constantly getting injured? No wonder selectors pick trundlers who are always available.

[tweaker]

29 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

How are these guys constantly getting injured? No wonder selectors pick trundlers who are always available.

The players when comes in national recognizing get injured. 

Now Parag,Dube are also getting injured. 

[express bowling]

49 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

How are these guys constantly getting injured? No wonder selectors pick trundlers who are always available.

 

Pacers who play FC Cricket regularly, and are used to bowling 15 to 20 overs a day, get injured less often. This is the key to staying fit, whether for a fast bowler or a trundler. 

 

This is the first time Umran has got injured for any length of time after coming to prominence in April 2022. 

Edited October 30, 2024 by express bowling

[Lone Wolf]

Conflicting reports now saying Harshit won't debut he is just bowling in the nets.

 

Clown GG got scared for the backlash perhaps for retaining him uncapped.

 

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

The players when comes in national recognizing get injured. 

Now Parag,Dube are also getting injured. 

And then they want to become regular while staying away for 12 months a year

[Lone Wolf]

ToI saying no debut lol

 

IND vs NZ: A big report came out regarding the Mumbai Test match between India and New Zealand that KKR's IPL champion fast bowler Harshit Rana could make his debut in the Mumbai Test match. Harshit Rana was also a part of the T20 and ODI Team India but has not yet made his international debut. In such a situation, Gautam Gambhir could field him in Mumbai before the Australian tour. But now a media report has come out that Harshit Rana is going to be out of the Mumbai Test match. 

Harshit Rana will not be able to debut 

Speaking to Times of India, a BCCI source said, 

 

Delhi's next Ranji Trophy match is to be played from November 6. But till now he has not been included in the Test team India. Now he is going to practice with Team India as a net bowler for this match.

The source further added, 

 

Washington Sundar was included in Team India before the second Test. After this, he also got a chance to play. Before his selection, a meeting of the selectors of Team India was held. But no meeting has been held yet regarding the selection of Harshit Rana. In such a situation, either Akash Deep or Siraj, a fast bowler pair, will be seen bowling with Jaspreet Bumrah for the Mumbai Test match. While Rana has been included as a reserve player for the series against New Zealand. Delhi's next Ranji match is to be held from November 6, so Rana has been included in Team India as a net bowler. He has not been given a place in the team yet. 

[tweaker]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Pacers who play FC Cricket regularly, and are used to bowling 15 to 20 overs a day, get injured less often. This is the key to staying fit, whether for a fast bowler or a trundler. 

 

This is the first time Umran has got injured for any length of time after coming to prominence in April 2022. 

Now a days bowlers don't want to bowl more and seen doing weight training. 

 

Once there is instances that Sunil Gavaskar made KapilDev bowl  consecutively from one end.