Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank clocked 149.9 k, 149.7 k and 150.3 k as the quickest balls in his 3 T20Is. Lots of balls above 147 k. 

 

It maybe slower than his IPL 145 k to 157 k stuff but still quite fast.

 

I think he was not fully fit when he played for India and was rushed back. 

lets see when mayank comes back if he can hit 150+ kmph regularly or not, bowling 145+kmph needs mind-set.

 

 

 

[MK55]

58 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Great to see that his Dad loves quick bowling!

[MK55]

Looks like I will have to go and watch the highlights of this match. 
If not for a conc substitute he wouldn't even have played. How fkd up is this team think tank.

[vishalvirsingh]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Very happy to learn that Harshit generated pace and bounce, touched 151 k and bowled well as well.

 

Missed it as I did not know that he was playing.

Bro ...try to find some highlights of his spell. i am sure harshit will be in 11 in Mumbai.

Harshit Made the DIFFERENCE and made us win the Match. He should be the MOM.

Bande mein hain DAM.

Like to Like replacement of DUBE....

- Both are 6 ft + tall and approx same height.

- One guys Bats very well agsinst spinners and a genuine pacer hurt his helmet so though he hits well but some shortcomings against genuine fast bouncers and One Guy is a Tailender 

- one guy bowls 115 to 125k and other bowls 120 to 151k with deadly bouncers between 140 to 145K - Jameen aasmaan ka difference in Pace.

 

 

[vishalvirsingh]

5 hours ago, MK55 said:

Looks like I will have to go and watch the highlights of this match. 
If not for a conc substitute he wouldn't even have played. How fkd up is this team think tank.

i hope harshit plays in 11 in Mumbai.

they strentghen the SPIN attack and play so many spinners and arshdeep who seems to have slowed down and is about to get a royal beating very soon. his new ball moves a bit and thats why batsman get into a defensive frame of mind and in his next spell he is hit like anything- same happened to BHUVI. when Bhuvi's bowl did not swing , he was hit all over the Park and same is going to happen to Arshdeep.

 

few reasons as to why supporting arshdeep is not the right thing to do ---

arsh fits into only T20 as he is a typical trundler with his natural pace around 120 to 133k ( not even 133 to 139 , he can stretch and go upto 139k some times but it is only when he stretches hard). i am not against him picked for T20 but when we are playing 3 Pacers ( not including Hardik) , he is wicket taking only with the new ball. having said all that he definitely fits the bill for T20. But if you have match winners like Harshit sitting on bench, i dont agree.

harshit is a ALL FORMAT wicket taking bowler and he seems to have less fitness issues compared to BOOM, SHAMMI, even Hardik . arshit is a  CHALAK ( clever bowler)

 

had i been agarkar i would have been rotating genuine fast bowlers in all 3 formats , even guys like tushar deshpande, kuldeep, umraan, any among aquib or J&K pacer or Gurnoor or Prasidh , Harshit should be the ones who are trained ...mayank seems to be like a guy who is blessed with pace n line n length and can be picked when ever he is fit. these guys will genuinely bowl fast and should be trained. 

arshdeep can train the bowling coach , he is a topper in the class who is always better than the CLass teacher but he seems to have some rhythm issues , typical trundler and definitely not for odi and tests ( thats why he has not been picked for odi and tests)

 

[singhvivek141]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

What were his 2nd and 3rd fastest balls ?

Second fastest was 146

[Teengunalagaan]

9 hours ago, Forward Defence said:

Concussion sub for Shivam Dube.

What? Concussion Sub fir Who 

[Teengunalagaan]

7 hours ago, express bowling said:

Very happy to learn that Harshit generated pace and bounce, touched 151 k and bowled well as well.

 

Missed it as I did not know that he was playing.

Said even during Aus Tour, it was ridiculous they dropped him after just 1 bad innings when it was the batsman who were a real problem.

 

He showed his capability under Bumrah, his dismissal of Head was a display of what he can do, how important a wicket that was, someone who turned the match every time he came in to bat.

[Suhaan]

6 hours ago, MK55 said:

Looks like I will have to go and watch the highlights of this match. 
If not for a conc substitute he wouldn't even have played. How fkd up is this team think tank.

They have skipped his 151 in highlights,typical Indian broadcasters choice

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Teengunalagaan said:

What? Concussion Sub fir Who 

Dubey  who made 50 while batted.

[singhvivek141]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Mayank clocked 149.9 k, 149.7 k and 150.3 k as the quickest balls in his 3 T20Is. Lots of balls above 147 k. 

 

It maybe slower than his IPL 145 k to 157 k stuff but still quite fast.

 

I think he was not fully fit when he played for India and was rushed back. 

Not denying that, but expectations are higher.

If it's fitness, then I hope he comes back with full pace. 

 

Usually there is a trend that bowlers push themselves in IPL and bowl quicker but bowl slower in the internationals. Harshit atleast broke that barrier. 

Hope Mayank takes inspiration from it.

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Not denying that, but expectations are higher.

If it's fitness, then I hope he comes back with full pace. 

 

 

It's definitely fitness related. 

 

i was trying to put myself in his shoes. If I am having trouble completing 4 over spells then it's unlikely that I will push myself after a long injury induced break. 

 

I am sure Mayank will cross 155 k if he stays fit for more than a month. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Usually there is a trend that bowlers push themselves in IPL and bowl quicker but bowl slower in the internationals. Harshit atleast broke that barrier. 

Hope Mayank takes inspiration from it.

 

Very valid point bro. I like Harshit's attitude. Hope he is handled better by GG / RGS. 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 1, 2025 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Want to see

 

Bumrah 

Mayank

Harshit 

 

bowling in tandem.

Edited February 1, 2025 by express bowling

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Second fastest was 146

 

How were the Indian commentators reacting to Harshit bowling at high speeds ?

 

Harsha and Co. were creaming their panties when Archer was bowling 145 k+. They just went on and on about his speeds. 

[Suhaan]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

It's definitely fitness related. 

 

i was trying to put myself in his shoes. If I am having trouble completing 4 over spells then it's unlikely that I will push myself after a long injury induced break. 

 

I am sure Mayank will cross 155 k if he stays fit for more than a month. 

 

 

 

Very valid point bro. I like Harshit's attitude. Hope he is handled better by GG / RGS. 

 

 

 

 

Hope your expectations turn into reality and Mayank is back stronger and bowling full tilt like last year early IPL

But I get Munaf Patel vibes from him,yes,he lacks that fire to match his ability,he seems happy settling for less

 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Hope your expectations turn into reality and Mayank is back stronger and bowling full tilt like last year early IPL

But I get Munaf Patel vibes from him,yes,he lacks that fire to match his ability,he seems happy settling for less

 

We can gauge Mayank's attitude only if he stays fit and plays for 3 months +. Quickest speeds rarely come in the first 2 series after a big injury. 

 

Munaf's case was different. He was a massive age fudger. Told Warne that he was actually 7 years older than his official age. When we saw him lose pace at age 26 / 27, he was actually 33 / 34. 

 

 

Edited February 1, 2025 by express bowling

[Suhaan]

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Warne that he was actually 7 years older than his official age. When wd saw him lose pace at age 26 / 27, he was actually 33 / 34. 

 

 

Yes he was ,didn't know by that much or may have forgotten over the years

 

Shami too might be 44+

Edited February 1, 2025 by Suhaan

[singhvivek141]

36 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

How were the Indian commentators reacting to Harshit bowling at high speeds ?

 

Harsha and Co. were creaming their panties when Archer was bowling 145 k+. They just went on and on about his speeds. 

KP was mentioning him frequently. 

"He is tall, he is fast, he is bustling"

 

Sunil mentioned the pace when it was for second timewon TV.."he clocked 151".

Nothing more from Indian commies, as far as what I recall.

Edited February 1, 2025 by singhvivek141

[singhvivek141]

25 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Yes he was ,didn't know by that much or may have forgotten over the years

 

Shami too might be 44+

Sania might have second thoughts now. 

[singhvivek141]

45 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Want to see

 

Bumrah 

Mayank

Harshit 

 

bowling in tandem.

Harshit, Sen, Yudhvir, Gurnoor have the skillset for longest format. They all are 6 feet and above and bowl at pace. Expect Sen all 3 have some potential with bat as well.

 

Mayank, Tyagi are more suited for T20's.

 

ODI's should be used as mix and match.