Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[tapandrun]

39 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

This guy Sumit from Haryana looks sharp.

Sumit kumar ??? The AR ??

He played 1-2 games in IPL for MI or dc looked like fish out of water like most Ind players in 1st season .

 

But he is hardly 133 kph bowler

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Bumrah's full tosses are getting smashed nowadays.  Suggests that he is not getting the snap/backspin that he used to get on the ball .

 

At his best, those full tosses were ridiculously difficult to hit because he got an insane amount of backspin and used to hit the bat higher than expected. 

[Rightarmfast]

Oh yes, this Ashok is quick/ sharp. 140's for sure. Bowled a nasty bouncer. Seems to me, he has a habit of bowling short of a length like 90's bowlers. 

[Rightarmfast]

6 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Sumit kumar ??? The AR ??

He played 1-2 games in IPL for MI or dc looked like fish out of water like most Ind players in 1st season .

 

But he is hardly 133 kph bowler

 

Yes, in hindsight, after seeing the super fast express anshul kamboj bowling, I thought as much that I could be wrong about Sumit. 

[tapandrun]

7 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Bumrah's full tosses are getting smashed nowadays.  Suggests that he is not getting the snap/backspin that he used to get on the ball .

 

At his best, those full tosses were ridiculously difficult to hit because he got an insane amount of backspin and used to hit the bat higher than expected. 

Drop in pace, previously those were mid 140s full tossed, now its early 140s kmph. plus they are now knee height full tosses.

[express bowling]

Ashok gets the set Ankit with a quck rising short ball. Hurried on to him

 

Missed his first 3 overs.

Edited December 12, 2025 by express bowling

[express bowling]

Ashok got outswing at pace in 2 deliveries in his 4th over.

 

Ends with a quick top of off dot ball.

Edited December 12, 2025 by express bowling

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

Drop in pace, previously those were mid 140s full tossed, now its early 140s kmph. plus they are now knee height full tosses.

Other guys full tosses used to be smashed even at high pace. 

[tapandrun]

9 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Other guys full tosses used to be smashed even at high pace. 

trajectory...., if its knee height high pace full-tosses will also be hit  

[Rightarmfast]

Ayush from Punjab has some pace. Not very tall though. Umesh Sharma like height. 

[Lord]

6 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Ayush from Punjab has some pace. Not very tall though. Umesh Sharma like height. 

 

That is good for Indian conditions if he's skiddy like Umesh

[tapandrun]

41 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

That is good for Indian conditions if he's skiddy like Umesh

Umesh was fast proper fast even in tests he was 145 kmph bowler. No comparison can me made with him and aaron (though he was always unfit) in Ind cricket may be just Umran.

 

Think all 4-5 Ind fst bowler were v.uinque to Ind domestic cricket.

 

Umesh was and remained fast, not common in Ind cricket 

Ishant though had ups and down all in his career be it pace or ability but he was tall and fast, still you will find Domestic tall bowlers with no pace only Gurnoor can be compared and gurnoor is not clocking what Ishant was clocking in last few yrs for his intnl cricket

Bhumrah unique in action, have not seen more sorted bowler than him and bhuvi who had brains , they were not just bowling rubbish

Shami :: Pace ,seem, control , skiiddy

 

Edited December 12, 2025 by tapandrun

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

That is good for Indian conditions if he's skiddy like Umesh

Ayush Goel isnt skiddy. Rather he hits the deck hard. But definitely good for India if we have a good pool of sharp bowlers. 

[express bowling]

49 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Ayush Goel isnt skiddy. Rather he hits the deck hard. But definitely good for India if we have a good pool of sharp bowlers. 

 

Did Ayush look 135 to 145 k ?

 

He has picked 15 wickets from 4 FC games this season averaging 22.9.

[express bowling]

 

Ayush Goyal looks medium pace in this Ranji video below. 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1154931340076967&vanity=pcacricketassociation

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Did Ayush look 135 to 145 k ?

 

He has picked 15 wickets from 4 FC games this season averaging 22.9.

I'd say he looks more 135ish tops. But looks like someone who has the potential to increase

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Ayush Goyal looks medium pace in this Ranji video below. 

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1154931340076967&vanity=pcacricketassociation

Looks slower in this video than the perceived pace he bowled with, today. 

[express bowling]

7 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Looks slower in this video than the perceived pace he bowled with, today. 

 

Happens with many pacers who are not FC cricket veterans.

 

They bowl much quicker in T20s but drop pace if they have to bowl 15+ overs a day. This video is from Ranji.

[Rightarmfast]

26 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Happens with many pacers who are not FC cricket veterans.

 

They bowl much quicker in T20s but drop pace if they have to bowl 15+ overs a day. This video is from Ranji.

Ofcourse. Much easier to bowl quicker for 2 overs on a trot. That's why I dont take T20 speeds as their regular speeds. But perhaps this kid has gained pace this season. 

[Vilander]

On 12/11/2025 at 12:11 AM, Rightarmfast said:

All well buddy, hows you bro? :)

All good.. getting old..