express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 Ashok's 3rd spell has been poor. Has not displayed understanding of this really slow and low pitch and has kept bowling half trackers. Not a good sign. Suhaan and Mosher 2
vayuu1 Posted June 21 Posted June 21 49 minutes ago, express bowling said: Ashok's 3rd spell has been poor. Has not displayed understanding of this really slow and low pitch and has kept bowling half trackers. Not a good sign. It will take time remember this is his first match tapandrun and Need4Speed 2
Nikhil_cric Posted June 21 Posted June 21 This is why Vipraj Nigam is being backed despite his ordinary stats. The man gets high dip on the ball which can induce false shots. Yash Raj Punja looks like a monster prospect. High dip and turn combined with a good release height. Parag gets massive turn for a part time spinner which is why having him as a sixth batsman +6th bowler would add some real depth to our ODI cricket. @Gollum @Lone Wolf Gollum, tweaker and tapandrun 3
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 2 hours ago, vayuu1 said: It will take time remember this is his first match Was it that difficult to assess that this is not a pitch for bowling 3 to 4 short balls an over ? An international bowler does not always get a lot of time to assess pitch conditions. Especially on away tours. Every venue is different. It's the quick learners who become great bowlers. Remember Hadlee talking about how he used to use just the first over to assess the pitch and then bowl accordingly. And he did this from a very young age. Mosher and tweaker 2
vayuu1 Posted June 21 Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: Was it that difficult to assess that this is not a pitch for bowling 3 to 4 short balls an over ? An international bowler does not always get a lot of time to assess pitch conditions. Especially on away tours. Every venue is different. It's the quick learners who become great bowlers. Remember Hadlee talking about how he used to use just the first over to assess the pitch and then bowl accordingly. And he did this from a very young age. He wanted to rattle batters wanted to take pitch out of equation
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: This is why Vipraj Nigam is being backed despite his ordinary stats. The man gets high dip on the ball which can induce false shots. Yash Raj Punja looks like a monster prospect. High dip and turn combined with a good release height. Parag gets massive turn for a part time spinner which is why having him as a sixth batsman +6th bowler would add some real depth to our ODI cricket. @Gollum @Lone Wolf Any stats for Manav Suthar and Washington Sundar ? Mosher 1
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 Just now, vayuu1 said: He wanted to rattle batters wanted to take pitch out of equation I know what he wanted to do. But this is where pitch assessment ability comes in. And too many short balls rarely work these days. Even on bouncy pitches. Ashok looked so good when he attacked the stumps and bowled surprise bumpers. He was getting more swing and seam than any other pacer from either side. Lone Wolf and Mosher 2
tapandrun Posted June 21 Posted June 21 14 minutes ago, express bowling said: Was it that difficult to assess that this is not a pitch for bowling 3 to 4 short balls an over ? An international bowler does not always get a lot of time to assess pitch conditions. Especially on away tours. Every venue is different. It's the quick learners who become great bowlers. Remember Hadlee talking about how he used to use just the first over to assess the pitch and then bowl accordingly. And he did this from a very young age. High pace bowlers always gets carried away, nothing new even greats of past have had this minor issue. Its how quickly they learn and understand. Just 1st game vs an intnl side, he bowled with pace and needs to developed. SL-A is a solid batting line-up, top #4/5 are proper intnl batters. express bowling 1
rkt.india Posted June 21 Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, express bowling said: I know what he wanted to do. But this is where pitch assessment ability comes in. And too many short balls rarely work these days. Even on bouncy pitches. Ashok looked so good when he attacked the stumps and bowled surprise bumpers. He was getting more swing and seam than any other pacer from either side. Hello will have to learn to bowl 6-8 meter lenght. tapandrun 1
tweaker Posted June 21 Posted June 21 17 minutes ago, express bowling said: Ashok looked so good when he attacked the stumps and bowled surprise bumpers. He was getting more swing and seam than any other pacer from either side. He may be instructed by Joshi. Most coaches feels if one is express pacers,he should bowl only bouncers. express bowling and Need4Speed 2
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 37 minutes ago, tapandrun said: High pace bowlers always gets carried away, nothing new even greats of past have had this minor issue. Its how quickly they learn and understand. Just 1st game vs an intnl side, he bowled with pace and needs to developed. SL-A is a solid batting line-up, top #4/5 are proper intnl batters. As you know, I am a big supporter of Ashok Sharma and want him to succeed badly. Young, fit quick, swinging the ball both ways at 147 kph+, is very rare. But we know how it is in India. Tyagi, Umran, Sen, Mayank all got sidelined after a couple of bad performances or 1 injury. Ashok himself got dropped from IPL 2026 after 2 bad overs. Which is why I want him to succeed quickly. Otherwise Kamboj and co. will come in. Mosher and tapandrun 2
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 36 minutes ago, tweaker said: He may be instructed by Joshi. Most coaches feels if one is express pacers,he should bowl only bouncers. Possible. We saw that with Umran too. Mosher, Suhaan and Lone Wolf 3
Suhaan Posted June 21 Posted June 21 38 minutes ago, tweaker said: He may be instructed by Joshi. Most coaches feels if one is express pacers,he should bowl only bouncers. Balaji is the pace bowling coach express bowling 1
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 Want to see this Harshit Rana in England. Hope he himself sees this video. Mosher 1
Nikhil_cric Posted June 21 Posted June 21 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: This is why Vipraj Nigam is being backed despite his ordinary stats. The man gets high dip on the ball which can induce false shots. Yash Raj Punja looks like a monster prospect. High dip and turn combined with a good release height. Parag gets massive turn for a part time spinner which is why having him as a sixth batsman +6th bowler would add some real depth to our ODI cricket. @Gollum @Lone Wolf @express bowling They bowl more in the 90-100 kph range. Small sample size for Manav Suthar but the data is exceptional Massive turn, drift and dip considering the speeds Manav bowled at in the IPL. Washi gets the most drift Edited June 21 by Nikhil_cric Mosher, express bowling and Lone Wolf 3
tapandrun Posted June 21 Posted June 21 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Want to see this Harshit Rana in England. Hope he himself sees this video. He has skill and ingredients but bowls too many slower-ones. These slower ones only work at intnl level when they are bowled with some surprise or there is massive dip in trajectory and pace. Bowling 3 slower-one in an over is no surprise. Batters these days are v.good and even mishit goes for 4/6s express bowling 1
Suhaan Posted June 21 Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, tapandrun said: He has skill and ingredients but bowls too many slower-ones. These slower ones only work at intnl level when they are bowled with some surprise or there is massive dip in trajectory and pace. Bowling 3 slower-one in an over is no surprise. Batters these days are v.good and even mishit goes for 4/6s Y 13 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: @express bowling They bowl more in the 90-100 kph range. Small sample size for Manav Suthar but the data is exceptional Massive turn, drift and dip considering the speeds Manav bowled at in the IPL. Washi gets the most drift Sir sadeja ticking all the boxes positive
tapandrun Posted June 21 Posted June 21 1 minute ago, Suhaan said: Y Sir sadeja ticking all the boxes positive Jadeja was good, the issue was he was batting 1-2 spot too high. Ind batting stops at pandaya and they keep on pushing batters with no power game as finishers which does not work vs top sides. Yes it may work with sc sides but nt vs top sides , if jadeja was 8/9 batter then Ind would have had a solid batting line , him playing at 6/7 is of no use.
express bowling Posted June 21 Author Posted June 21 32 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: @express bowling They bowl more in the 90-100 kph range. Small sample size for Manav Suthar but the data is exceptional Massive turn, drift and dip considering the speeds Manav bowled at in the IPL. Washi gets the most drift Thanks. Manav Suthar is awesome ! Can he be tried in ODIs too ? And Washington is good enough for a batting all-rounder. Plus he gets bounce. Will be handy in SA. Mosher 1
Lone Wolf Posted June 21 Posted June 21 1 hour ago, express bowling said: Possible. We saw that with Umran too. Hahah yeah I remember this too.. they used to ask Umran to bowl short exclusively and kept mid on mid off up. Umran being shorter and skiddier couldn't generate bounce and used to get thrashed. Everytime he bowed full and straight he looked a different bowler. express bowling 1
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