Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[JaFanatic]

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ashwinv.vis@gma: "Vishal. I consider myself as fast bowler bowling at 110 kmph and you dont consider 129.5 kmph quick. please give Siraj a break. (may be he needs one)." No offence to your pace but I'm only comparing it with his older speeds of 140+ that we're used to

India vs Sri Lanka, India in Sri Lanka, 2nd Test https://www.cricinfo.com/series/india-in-sri-lanka-2026-1543999/sri-lanka-vs-india-2nd-test-1544002/live-cricket-score

[New guy]

 

 

 

Siraj starting new innings in 120s, pathetic 

[New guy]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

Our coach sahab would not give debut to Gurnoor, even against Afghanistan or Srilanka.

 

Siraj is seen bowling without intensity,speed but coach sahab has no aukat to replace him with Gurnoor who has a 10 wicket haul against Sri Lanka A 

No Sikhs or Muslims allowed in the team. Siraj will be phased out soon too like Shami

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, New guy said:

No Sikhs or Muslims allowed in the team. Siraj will be phased out soon too like Shami

 

Gurnoor is a Sikh and has debuted and played in 6 ODIs in the last 2 months. 

 

Bumrah and Arshdeep are Sikhs too. 

 

If Siraj goes, it will be because he is bowling in the 120s.

 

Along with Shami most other Seniors have been phased out too. 

 

 

Edited August 26 by express bowling

[singhvivek141]

51 minutes ago, New guy said:

No Sikhs or Muslims allowed in the team. Siraj will be phased out soon too like Shami

You yourself said Siraj is trundling at 120s..

How come a Frontline pacer who dont have any secondary skill can just bowl at 120s ?

 

Its like Azhar saying that as he is a muslim he should have been allowed to fix matches.

 

Anyway, excuse have no boundaries. Someone can say that Ashwin was forced out coz he was a South Indian, while Washy is supported coz he is from GT.

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

No Sikhs or Muslims allowed in the team. Siraj will be phased out soon too like Shami

While Shami has been given the wrong end of the stick, and I am not sure whether it has anything to do with his religion. It well might be. Another example is Sarfaraz. He isn't getting chances and eyebrows are being raised about it. Add Umran to the list too. 

 

But Siraj will go out because of his own mistake. And I haven't yet seen anything against Sikhs in the Indian team. I mean, I want Arshdeep to be kicked out because he is so limited and faking his way in, in the team. And yet, he is being given chances!

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

No Sikhs or Muslims allowed in the team. Siraj will be phased out soon too like Shami

Religion has nothing to do with it.  Seniority is the problem.

 

Siraj playing ahead of Gurnoor coz of seniority only.

Shami can't pick wickets against North Eastern sides anymore and how is he supposed to be part of Indian set up that has multiple young quicks struggling to find a spot?

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

While Shami has been given the wrong end of the stick, and I am not sure whether it has anything to do with his religion. It well might be.

 

Selectors and TM don't want oldies. 

 

Ashwin, Kohli, Rohit all removed from the test team.  All oldies removed from the T20 team. 

 

Shami could not pick a single wicket in the just concluded Zonal red ball match against weak North East Zone.

 

Ball by ball replay available on Jio Hotstar. You can watch.

 

Atleast to me, Shami seemed to lose steam after a few overs.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Another example is Sarfaraz. He isn't getting chances and eyebrows are being raised about it.

 

 

Sarfraz leaked dressing room info.

 

Has been out of favour since.

 

2 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Add Umran to the list too. 

 

@singhvivek141 reported that Umran was bowling a couple of yards slower after return from injury.

 

He did not get a single game for KKR either or for his state J&K.

 

[singhvivek141]

21 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Selectors and TM don't want oldies. 

 

Ashwin, Kohli, Rohit all removed from the test team.  All oldies removed from the T20 team. 

 

Shami could not pick a single wicket in the just concluded Zonal red ball match against weak North East Zone.

 

Ball by ball replay available on Jio Hotstar. You can watch.

 

Atleast to me, Shami seemed to lose steam after a few overs.

 

 

 

 

Sarfraz leaked dressing room info.

 

Has been out of favour since.

 

 

@singhvivek141 reported that Umran was bowling a couple of yards slower after return from injury.

 

He did not get a single game for KKR either or for his state J&K.

 

Yeah, Umran didnt looked like he is bowling at his usual pace.

 

No speedometers but even at the KKR practice game...Tyagi was visually faster.

 

If I have to make a wild guess, Umran looked like bowling at 135-141k with odd deliveries around 144-145. 

[Need4Speed]

22 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Selectors and TM don't want oldies. 

 

Ashwin, Kohli, Rohit all removed from the test team.  All oldies removed from the T20 team. 

 

Shami could not pick a single wicket in the just concluded Zonal red ball match against weak North East Zone.

 

Ball by ball replay available on Jio Hotstar. You can watch.

 

Atleast to me, Shami seemed to lose steam after a few overs.

 

 

 

 

Sarfraz leaked dressing room info.

 

Has been out of favour since.

 

 

@singhvivek141 reported that Umran was bowling a couple of yards slower after return from injury.

 

He did not get a single game for KKR either or for his state J&K.

 

Heard Umran was taken for plenty in some DY Patil League..after return

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/umran-malik-expensive-spells-dy-patil-t20-cup-kkr-troubles-ipl-2026-2874765-2026-02-26

[Rightarmfast]

25 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Selectors and TM don't want oldies. 

 

Ashwin, Kohli, Rohit all removed from the test team.  All oldies removed from the T20 team. 

 

Shami could not pick a single wicket in the just concluded Zonal red ball match against weak North East Zone.

 

Ball by ball replay available on Jio Hotstar. You can watch.

 

Atleast to me, Shami seemed to lose steam after a few overs.

 

 

 

 

Sarfraz leaked dressing room info.

 

Has been out of favour since.

 

 

@singhvivek141 reported that Umran was bowling a couple of yards slower after return from injury.

 

He did not get a single game for KKR either or for his state J&K.

 

That's the PR version. There are many angles to things. 

[express bowling]

37 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

That's the PR version. There are many angles to things. 

 

Regarding which player ?

 

I am personally seeing Siraj bowling at 125 k and Shami bowling much slower after first spell in FCC.

 

And Umran did not get picked by his State where other Muslims are playing.

 

Edited August 26 by express bowling

[singhvivek141]

41 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

That's the PR version. There are many angles to things. 

Yar, ye sab kehne ki baatein hai.

In today's era of Social Media...anything can be twisted into an ill information.

 

Take an example of Gurnoor vs Nabi...Gurnoor was being abused of GT quota, but he outperformed Nabi on similar bowling conditions. 

Even Washy gets an abuse because of this...while Goal post changes to South India when discussion switches to Ashwin or Sanju.

 

There were also news that GG hates Mumbaikars and hence he sidelined Rohit...also he wants to be the biggest bully and hence he dropped Virat.

 

As I said, the conspiracy theories have no limits. Tomorrow, Ravi Bishnoi will start a protest that GG hates players of Bishnoi samaaj due to their "ties" with Lawrence Bishnoi.

[New guy]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Religion has nothing to do with it.  Seniority is the problem.

 

Siraj playing ahead of Gurnoor coz of seniority only.

Shami can't pick wickets against North Eastern sides anymore and how is he supposed to be part of Indian set up that has multiple young quicks struggling to find a spot?

You wait and watch

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, New guy said:

You wait and watch

Just read this... If it isn't blatant seniority and favoritism then what is?

 

you are wondering why Siraj is not bowling at full tilt then here's what he had to say -"I wouldn’t say I’m at a hundred percent from my side because I’ve come back after a two-month break. I’ve been struggling quite a lot with my rhythm in this situation because I haven’t been able to find that rhythm. So I’m just trying to get my rhythm back. But whatever I’ve been able to do, I’m using my experience and trying to control myself as much as possible while bowling. Because if I think too much, I’ll leak runs, I’ll come under pressure, and the team will also come under pressure. So my attempt is to keep it simple. If I’m not finding my rhythm, what can I do? I’m just trying to build pressure, build pressure, that’s what I’m trying to do."

 

[Rightarmfast]

2 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Regarding which player ?

 

I am personally seeing Siraj bowling at 125 k and Shami bowling much slower after first spell in FCC.

 

And Umran did not get picked by his State where other Muslims are playing.

 

Never said anything about Siraj. Shami has been getting the rough end for some time, it's not about recent performance. 

Facts can't be changed, what's happening is happening whether one sees it or not. Not forcing my opinion on anyone, but I have been noticing a pattern. 

 

End of the day, to each his own.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

6 hours ago, tweaker said:

 

If we can field Mayank, Tyagi, Ashok, Gurnoor,but our phattu selectors,Chanakya coach would field Kamboj, Sandeep, Mukesh, Unadkat 

Don’t insult chanakya

[diga]

Some people are living in their echo chambers...lage raho 

 

 

Edited August 26 by diga

[diga]

Isn't the Indian captain a Sikh? MTC keeps preaching others about falling prey to Baki tactics of infighting, but here he is adding fuel to the fire

[tweaker]

31 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Don’t insult chanakya

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