Sachin=GOD Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 It will go down to the wire all three results are possible. BTW is there's a tie what will happen. penalty shootout? :giggle: Lol
BeautifulGame Posted September 11, 2014 Author Posted September 11, 2014 It will go down to the wire all three results are possible. BTW is there's a tie what will happen. The status quo will remain i.e Scotland will remain part of UK
Crookbond Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 It will go down to the wire all three results are possible. BTW is there's a tie what will happen. penalty shootout? :giggle: :hysterical: gs gave the full monty here!
Sooda Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 According to her' date=' it could fuel separatist elements in India. In reality, another one of those FUDs. Some 18-year old kid (son of a BJP State Secretary) is even arguing for that ludicrous claim.[/quote'] India are not the only ones with that concerns- Spain may not allow an independent Scotland into the EU because the Basque region wants to be a separate state there
goose Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Slippery Salmon just likened the referendum to the momentous first elections in South Africa post-apartheid. HTF could anyone vote for anyone propagating such bull?
zep1706 Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Get Today's Chanakya to do a prediction. :haha:
zep1706 Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 Meanwhile RBS and a few others have said that they would move out of Scotland if it votes for independence. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/sep/11/rbs-will-leave-scotland-yes-vote Personally I would be happy to see Scotland voting for independence. It would weaken already weak UK considerably. It's a cliche but karma is indeed a biatch!
Texan Posted September 11, 2014 Posted September 11, 2014 penalty shootout? :giggle: Considering how England performed in the FIFA World Cup, I would consider Scotland favorites there too. :winky:
North Sea Tiger Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Slippery Salmon just likened the referendum to the momentous first elections in South Africa post-apartheid. HTF could anyone vote for anyone propagating such bull? This is what he said: Last Monday I saw something which I did not ever think I would see in my political life. In Dundee, I saw people queuing up – and it was not a short queue, it was a long queue – to register to vote. Almost reminiscent of the scenes in South Africa that some of us of a certain age remember from 20 years ago or so when people queued up to vote in the first free elections. I saw people queuing up to put in their registration forms to vote. He has not likened anything to anything. All he has said is a lot of people are queuing to register to vote in the referendum. Considering some 97% of Scotland's adult population has registered to vote, Salmond says this volume of turnout is reminiscent of South Africa 20 years ago. Typical of Main Stream Media in the UK twisting what he said and spin it into something else and you fell for it.
North Sea Tiger Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Meanwhile RBS and a few others have said that they would move out of Scotland if it votes for independence. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/sep/11/rbs-will-leave-scotland-yes-vote Personally I would be happy to see Scotland voting for independence. It would weaken already weak UK considerably. It's a cliche but karma is indeed a biatch! Here is the email which RBS's CEO sent to staff yesterday. Dear colleagues We have today made a statement to the market (see below), providing information on our contingency planning in the event of a Yes vote in next week’s referendum on Scottish independence. As you will have seen over the last twenty four hours, other Scottish headquartered financial institutions have made public statements about their intentions. This served to fuel media speculation about our own plans, and in those circumstances, it became necessary for us to update the market on aspects of our contingency planning. It is my view as Chief Executive that any decision to move our registered headquarters should have no impact on everyday banking services used by our customers in Scotland and the rest of the British Isles. This is a technical procedure regarding the location of our registered head office. It is not an intention to move operations or jobs. Our current business in Scotland, including the personal and business bank, IT and operations, human resources and many other functions, are here because of the skills and knowledge of our people, and the sound business environment. So far, I see no reason why this would change should we implement our contingency plans. It is always my aim to ensure we inform our staff about such issues at the earliest opportunity. I know many of you will have already heard about this first in the media. My apologies for that, on this occasion this was unavoidable. Over the next week, and beyond, we will continue to update you whenever appropriate. Ross McEwan Chief Executive RBS and Lloyd's Bank moving out of Scotland is just a paperwork exercise of relocating the headquarters out of Scotland and hardly any jobs will be lost because of that.
Sachin=GOD Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 India are not the only ones with that concerns- Spain may not allow an independent Scotland into the EU because the Basque region wants to be a separate state there Yes. Thats one of the problems Scotland would definitely face.
North Sea Tiger Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 India are not the only ones with that concerns- Spain may not allow an independent Scotland into the EU because the Basque region wants to be a separate state there Yes. Thats one of the problems Scotland would definitely face. "Spain promises non-interference on Scotland" http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/977a39ea-8c26-11e3-9b1d-00144feab7de.html#axzz3D5b23SFz You may also want to have a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe I don't think Spain, Belgium, Finland, Italy or other counties with secessionist movements would ultimately block Scottish membership of the EU but it will be difficult to negotiate within the 18 months duration as promised by the SNP post independence.
mishra Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 English media is portraying that Independent Scotland is a bad thing and by looks of it, Scotts are buying it. If they vote NO, Surely they dont deserve independence.
zep1706 Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 RBS and Lloyd's Bank moving out of Scotland is just a paperwork exercise of relocating the headquarters out of Scotland and hardly any jobs will be lost because of that. Agreed I don't think their operations in Scotland would be affected by the move. In fact I feel that they may not even move their HQ out of Scotland. It maybe usual scaremongering.
Ram Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 From a purely financial/economic/military/scientific perspective, it seems counter productive for Scotland to leave the United Kingdom. But I guess this is a question of identity and sovereignty. Will I be able to save tons of money if i could simply have my entire family stay in my friend's guest house situated at the back of his garden? Of course. I will have to pay only a fraction in rent costs. I dont ever have to worry about maintenance costs or property taxes and I have the freedom of moving out whenever I want to. But will I ever do that? Of course not. I would always want a space that we, and only we, could call our own. If the Scots truly feel that they can reclaim their identity by seceding, then they should go for it. Having said that, all of the fear mongering and doomsday predictions in the media will likely work and they are probably going to vote no, which will be sad.
Dhondy Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 It's astonishing to see the very people who have opposed Kashmir's right to self determination tooth and nail to the point of refusing it the right to a plebiscite, now quietly cheering on the breakup of the United Kingdom. Unlike Kashmir and its occupiers, there has been no rancour between England and Scotland for the last couple of hundred years. They are one people, share common cultures, and have both sides of the bloodline running across myriad families. There have been no less than seven Prime Ministers of Scottish origins steering Britain through the ages. You could hardly say the same about Kashmir. I am pretty confident of the Scottish vote. I know the Scots will stay with the UK. Give the Kashmiris half a chance though, and they'll bolt. But that's the difference between the two countries, I guess. Honesty and fairness runs through Britain's fabric, traits which Indians can neither identify with, nor understand, mired in self preservation that they are. I doubt any other country outside the Anglosphere would have the courage and integrity to offer this referendum to separatists. Certainly not India. Double standards as usual. One rule for them and one for us. Who would have thunk it?
FischerTal Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 Honestly and fairly colonizing the whole world for 200+ years. Yeah India can never do that
gattaca Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 It's astonishing to see the very people who have opposed Kashmir's right to self determination tooth and nail to the point of refusing it the right to a plebiscite, now quietly cheering on the breakup of the United Kingdom. Unlike Kashmir and its occupiers, there has been no rancour between England and Scotland for the last couple of hundred years. They are one people, share common cultures, and have both sides of the bloodline running across myriad families. There have been no less than seven Prime Ministers of Scottish origins steering Britain through the ages. You could hardly say the same about Kashmir. I am pretty confident of the Scottish vote. I know the Scots will stay with the UK. Give the Kashmiris half a chance though, and they'll bolt. But that's the difference between the two countries, I guess. Honesty and fairness runs through Britain's fabric, traits which Indians can neither identify with, nor understand, mired in self preservation that they are. I doubt any other country outside the Anglosphere would have the courage and integrity to offer this referendum to separatists. Certainly not India. Double standards as usual. One rule for them and one for us. Who would have thunk it? Sure Britain is fair and they haven't hurt an Ant's soul for centuries. Read on the Bengal famine and statements made by Churchill. you guys plundered every country except a few like France.
G_B_ Posted September 16, 2014 Posted September 16, 2014 It's astonishing to see the very people who have opposed Kashmir's right to self determination tooth and nail to the point of refusing it the right to a plebiscite, now quietly cheering on the breakup of the United Kingdom. Unlike Kashmir and its occupiers, there has been no rancour between England and Scotland for the last couple of hundred years. They are one people, share common cultures, and have both sides of the bloodline running across myriad families. There have been no less than seven Prime Ministers of Scottish origins steering Britain through the ages. You could hardly say the same about Kashmir. I am pretty confident of the Scottish vote. I know the Scots will stay with the UK. Give the Kashmiris half a chance though, and they'll bolt. But that's the difference between the two countries, I guess. Honesty and fairness runs through Britain's fabric, traits which Indians can neither identify with, nor understand, mired in self preservation that they are. I doubt any other country outside the Anglosphere would have the courage and integrity to offer this referendum to separatists. Certainly not India. Double standards as usual. One rule for them and one for us. Who would have thunk it? I would say the cathlotics in Northern Ireland would push that territory towards independence. Especially with current demographics. Maybe you would actually have a point if NI was offered the vote. Look closely at the SNP, its packed with Irish heritage catholics, Alex Salmond aside. Secondly its pretty stupid to compare scottish independence to say kashmir. The truth is Scotland is only now attempting independence because they have the shield of grouping of the european union to fall back on. The ultimate aim is the euro. Its the same common travel area. Scotland would not even contemplate independence if it was not for the safety net of the euro.
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