The-Ramones Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 "Ever since the Bharatiya Janata Party has come to power, issues related to Muslims in India are zooming into focus. Though during the election campaign Narendra Modi indirectly talked about “appeasementâ€, “votebank†politics and the preferential treatment meted out to Muslims by the Congress, he did not make their identity an issue. He appeared to be ambivalent on that count. However, after becoming Prime Minister, Mr Modi has consciously chosen to treat “Indian Islam†as “un-Indianâ€, even though the BJP boasts of a few Muslim members. One of the first indicators of this was that in his capacity as Prime Minister he did not wish Muslims “Id Mubarakâ€, Id being the most significant festival celebrated by the community on the completion of the holy month of Ramzan. He also consciously avoided hosting an iftar party, a tradition upheld by earlier prime ministers. His refusal to wear a skull cap on an earlier occasion is also an indication of his bias against Islam. Mr Modi’s gestures must be examined in the context of other organisational postures of the Sangh Parivar. Several Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh leaders raked up the issue of the name of the country and posited it in relation to the religion* of its majority population. Their piercing statement that our country is Hindustan, therefore all those who live here are Hindus is a major ideological departure from the position of all other political parties. Other related issues such as “love jihadâ€, being taken up by several BJP leaders in Uttar Pradesh, is also a bid to project Muslims as “un-Indianâ€. So far, Mr Modi as Prime Minister has given a clear indication by visiting religious places of his choice and donning dresses or headgear. In his election tours to Punjab he endorsed Sikhism. In Japan, he visited Buddhist temples. In Ladakh, he donned the traditional attire. And in his Independence Day speech from the ramparts of Red Fort, he used Buddha’s name. All these gestures are telling. He seems to telling us that Hinduism or Sanatan Dharm, Buddhism and Sikhism are India’s nationalist religions. The nation does not know his view on Christianity yet. For clarity on that we will perhaps have to wait till Christmas. Will he uphold the tradition of Indian Prime Ministers wishing Christians on their big day? So far, indications are that Mr Modi and the Sangh Parivar are in unison in sending across the message that Islam is un-Indian and Muslims by and large anti-national. We must take these signs seriously because the implications of linking up religion and nationalism are bound to be disastrous. Islam stamped its mark in India in the early 6th century when Cheraman Perumal, a shudra king of Kerala, willingly embraced it. As the story goes, he visited Prophet Mohammad in Mecca and embraced Islam. Though the exact year of his conversion is not known, but the first mosque, the Cheraman Jum’ah Masjid, was built in 629 in Methala, Kerala’s Thrissur district. There-after, Islam spread in the southern state. Islam has been in India for around 1,600 years and has, since then, spread across the subcontinent — to the south, west, east and north India. Leaving his kingdom, Perumal went on a spiritual quest. Millions of people — particularly from the lower castes — embraced Islam as it bestowed on them the right to spiritual equality. Much before it became a religion of the ruling class, Islam sent out the message of oneness of God that had a massive impact on the idol worshipping cultures of Varna dharma. As the desire for spiritual equality spread across India, Islam provided the perfect platform. If the Sangh Parivar thinks that through induced or forceful marriages, or through swords or by using state power, masses will change their religion, they are hugely mistaken. Islam and Christianity have grown in the world because of education — both are book-centric religions. They are not idol-centric as Hinduism is. Secondly, they promise internal equality. They might not have fulfilled that promise in practice, but the assurance in their scriptures is comforting. Islamisation of the Indian culture, its architecture and educational system during the last 1,600 years is a reality. For example, the dress that our first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru wore (tight pyjama and sherwani) was Islamic. The dress that Mr Modi wears today (exactly the same pyjama, with half or full kurta) is also Islamic. Is there such a dress in Hinduism? Could he show us a Hindu priest wearing a kurta-pyjama? Even the headgear that he wore on Independence Day (called roomal in Telangana) is of Arabic origin. How Islamic architecture influenced India’s built heritage is well recorded. And how that architecture is still alive in our modern abodes, whether urban or rural, needs to be studied. * Even if we ignore Islam’s physical manifestations which are a part of our lives, can we ignore the Islamic influence on the general, metaphysical* and philosophical thinking of Indian intellectuals and masses? The notion that there is only one God, the culture of a priest getting married, as Brahmin priests do today, are borrowed from Islam. Several such habits and traditions were assimilated by both Muslims and Hindus. Before the advent of Islam in India, the shudras, leave alone dalits, were not allowed to dress well. They were not allowed to eat food cooked in oil and salt. The inclusive trade system — the right to all castes to sell and buy — is a post-Islamic civil societal development as well. The impact of Indian Islam on our food is well-documented — biryani, an inherently Indian Islamic dish, is not the exclusive domain of Muslims anymore. In South India, the dish is enjoyed across the wide spectrum of castes. Similarly, the love for haleem, another Islamic preparation, among non-Muslim youth is far greater than their love for Muslim girls! Would the Sangh Parivar abolish that love, too? Over a period of 1,600 years, Islamic culture has spread through the length and breadth of India, touched all sections of society, and penetrated into various spheres of our life. How can a Prime Minister treat a cultural system — the lifeblood of a nation — as anti-national? This question begs an answer, and the debate should be focused on this alone, and not on who is a majority and who a minority. The writer is director, Centre for the Study of Social Exclusion and Inclusive Policy, Maulana Azad National Urdu University, Hyderabad " Ever since the Bharatiya Janata Party has come to power, issues related to Muslims in India are zooming into focus. Though during the election campaign Narendra Modi indirectly talked about “appeasementâ€, “votebank†politics and the preferential treatment meted out to Muslims by the Congress, he did not make their identity an issue. He appeared to be ambivalent on that count. However, after becoming Prime Minister, Mr Modi has consciously chosen to treat “Indian Islam†as “un-Indianâ€, even though the BJP boasts of a few Muslim members. One of the first indicators of this was that in his capacity as Prime Minister he did not wish Muslims “Id Mubarakâ€, Id being the most significant festival celebrated by the community on the completion of the holy month of Ramzan. He also consciously avoided hosting an iftar party, a tradition upheld by earlier prime ministers. His refusal to wear a skull cap on an earlier occasion is also an indication of his bias against Islam. Mr Modi’s gestures must be examined in the context of other organisational postures of the Sangh Parivar. Several Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh leaders raked up the issue of the name of the country and posited it in relation to the religion* of its majority population. Their piercing statement that our country is Hindustan, therefore all those who live here are Hindus is a major ideological departure from the position of all other political parties. Other related issues such as “love jihadâ€, being taken up by several BJP leaders in Uttar Pradesh, is also a bid to project Muslims as “un-Indianâ€. So far, Mr Modi as Prime Minister has given a clear indication by visiting religious places of his choice and donning dresses or headgear. In his election tours to Punjab he endorsed Sikhism. In Japan, he visited Buddhist temples. In Ladakh, he donned the traditional attire. And in his Independence Day speech from the ramparts of Red Fort, he used Buddha’s name. All these gestures are telling. He seems to telling us that Hinduism or Sanatan Dharm, Buddhism and Sikhism are India’s nationalist religions. The nation does not know his view on Christianity yet. For clarity on that we will perhaps have to wait till Christmas. Will he uphold the tradition of Indian Prime Ministers wishing Christians on their big day? So far, indications are that Mr Modi and the Sangh Parivar are in unison in sending across the message that Islam is un-Indian and Muslims by and large anti-national. We must take these signs seriously because the implications of linking up religion and nationalism are bound to be disastrous. Islam stamped its mark in India in the early 6th century when Cheraman Perumal, a shudra king of Kerala, willingly embraced it. As the story goes, he visited Prophet Mohammad in Mecca and embraced Islam. Though the exact year of his conversion is not known, but the first mosque, the Cheraman Jum’ah Masjid, was built in 629 in Methala, Kerala’s Thrissur district. There-after, Islam spread in the southern state. Islam has been in India for around 1,600 years and has, since then, spread across the subcontinent — to the south, west, east and north India. Leaving his kingdom, Perumal went on a spiritual quest. Millions of people — particularly from the lower castes — embraced Islam as it bestowed on them the right to spiritual equality. Much before it became a religion of the ruling class, Islam sent out the message of oneness of God that had a massive impact on the idol worshipping cultures of Varna dharma. As the desire for spiritual equality spread across India, Islam provided the perfect platform. If the Sangh Parivar thinks that through induced or forceful marriages, or through swords or by using state power, masses will change their religion, they are hugely mistaken. Islam and Christianity have grown in the world because of education — both are book-centric religions. They are not idol-centric as Hinduism is. Secondly, they promise internal equality. They might not have fulfilled that promise in practice, but the assurance in their scriptures is comforting. Islamisation of the Indian culture, its architecture and educational system during the last 1,600 years is a reality. For example, the dress that our first Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru wore (tight pyjama and sherwani) was Islamic. The dress that Mr Modi wears today (exactly the same pyjama, with half or full kurta) is also Islamic. Is there such a dress in Hinduism? Could he show us a Hindu priest wearing a kurta-pyjama? Even the headgear that he wore on Independence Day (called roomal in Telangana) is of Arabic origin. How Islamic architecture influenced India’s built heritage is well recorded. And how that architecture is still alive in our modern abodes, whether urban or rural, needs to be studied. * Even if we ignore Islam’s physical manifestations which are a part of our lives, can we ignore the Islamic influence on the general, metaphysical* and philosophical thinking of Indian intellectuals and masses? The notion that there is only one God, the culture of a priest getting married, as Brahmin priests do today, are borrowed from Islam. Several such habits and traditions were assimilated by both Muslims and Hindus. Before the advent of Islam in India, the shudras, leave alone dalits, were not allowed to dress well. They were not allowed to eat food cooked in oil and salt. The inclusive trade system — the right to all castes to sell and buy — is a post-Islamic civil societal development as well. The impact of Indian Islam on our food is well-documented — biryani, an inherently Indian Islamic dish, is not the exclusive domain of Muslims anymore. In South India, the dish is enjoyed across the wide spectrum of castes. Similarly, the love for haleem, another Islamic preparation, among non-Muslim youth is far greater than their love for Muslim girls! Would the Sangh Parivar abolish that love, too? Over a period of 1,600 years, Islamic culture has spread through the length and breadth of India, touched all sections of society, and penetrated into various spheres of our life. How can a Prime Minister treat a cultural system — the lifeblood of a nation — as anti-national? This question begs an answer, and the debate should be focused on this alone, and not on who is a majority and who a minority. The writer is director, Centre for the Study of Social Exclusion and Inclusive Policy, Maulana Azad National Urdu University, Hyderabad http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140910/commentary-op-ed/article/hindustan-vs-india Some good points.
BeautifulGame Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Before the advent of Islam in India, the shudras, leave alone dalits, were not allowed to dress well. They were not allowed to eat food cooked in oil and salt. The inclusive trade system — the right to all castes to sell and buy — is a post-Islamic civil societal development as well. Is this what they teach in Madrassas seriously? lol
jusarrived Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Is this what they teach in Madrassas seriously? lol We have stupid junta who lap on to it also .
maniac Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 The article talks about a Shudra King and at the same time mentions how Shudras was mistreated before the advent of islam :hmmmm: Indian Islam doesn't have Caste discrimination? Really the quality of research of some of these "intellectual" writers is appalling. You can make valid points but most important part of journalism RESEARCH
gattaca Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 True indian Islam also has discrimination remember azhar who was from a lower sect / caste heard they are not treated that well it seems. I came to know from a Muslim guy.
Texan Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 However, after becoming Prime Minister, Mr Modi has consciously chosen to treat “Indian Islam†as “un-Indianâ€, even though the BJP boasts of a few Muslim members. One of the first indicators of this was that in his capacity as Prime Minister he did not wish Muslims “Id Mubarakâ€, Id being the most significant festival celebrated by the community on the completion of the holy month of Ramzan. He also consciously avoided hosting an iftar party, a tradition upheld by earlier prime ministers. His refusal to wear a skull cap on an earlier occasion is also an indication of his bias against Islam. This is just the kind of garbage that the Congress school of secularism has propagated. Regarding Eid wishes: Did this author do any research at all or is he just blindly toeing the Congress line? The Prime Minister conveyed his wishes on twitter. But, sure enough the author did not care to check. Regarding iftar parties: Why does he have to host them? Just because some previous Prime Ministers hosted them? Surely that is not a reason to continue the tradition. If the previous Prime Minister was doing so many right things, then his party would not have decimated and been in the opposition (struggling to even put up a Leader of Opposition). Regarding skull cap: Did Manmohan Singh ever remove his turban to wear a skull cap? Not that that should influence Modi's actions, but how come nobody made a big issue out of Manmohan Singh never wearing a skull cap? Did he ever wear a pendant with a cross in it? How are those not issues?
gs Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 This is just the kind of garbage that the Congress school of secularism has propagated. Regarding Eid wishes: Did this author do any research at all or is he just blindly toeing the Congress line? The Prime Minister conveyed his wishes on twitter. But, sure enough the author did not care to check. Regarding iftar parties: Why does he have to host them? Just because some previous Prime Ministers hosted them? Surely that is not a reason to continue the tradition. If the previous Prime Minister was doing so many right things, then his party would not have decimated and been in the opposition (struggling to even put up a Leader of Opposition). Regarding skull cap: Did Manmohan Singh ever remove his turban to wear a skull cap? Not that that should influence Modi's actions, but how come nobody made a big issue out of Manmohan Singh never wearing a skull cap? Did he ever wear a pendant with a cross in it? How are those not issues? Don't let facts get in the way of a good story!
The-Ramones Posted September 12, 2014 Author Posted September 12, 2014 It is Hindustan Hindutvastan vs India So are you okay with "Hindu"stan ?
jalebi_bhai Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Some good points. What about the contribution of Muslims to communal harmony in India?
Austin 3:!6 Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 So are you okay with "Hindu"stan ? Not sure about him but personally speaking I want India to be only for Hindus. There are so many Christian and Muslim country exists globally. Hindu majority country only being India and we must have the first right on everything here. That doesn't mean minorities will be treated poorly but they need to understand one thing - Hindustan is for Hindus. Period
jalebi_bhai Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Not sure about him but personally speaking I want India to be only for Hindus. There are so many Christian and Muslim country exists globally. Hindu majority country only being India and we must have the first right on everything here. That doesn't mean minorities will be treated poorly but they need to understand one thing - Hindustan is for Hindus. Period Would have to disagree with you......the beauty of India is that our diversity is our strength......As a nation, we have more culture than entire continents......by trying to make our country communally homogeneous, we run the risk of becoming fascists.....people shouldn't be expected to hold beliefs they don't have faith in........the goal must be to become a truly secular nation.......not the current sadak chaap secularism that we have at present...... Also, India is not the only country with a Hindu majority......Nepal also has a Hindu majority.....
hhunaeh Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 So are you okay with "Hindu"stan ? "hindustan"/india is the mostly tolerant, diverse country i have grown up in. It has its problems, but i am okay with it. I am not okay with the hindutvastan which the rss want to turn us into. They don't represent all the hindus, so don't frame it as a "hindus vs the rest" problem and give them legitimacy.
moniker Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Not sure about him but personally speaking I want India to be only for Hindus. There are so many Christian and Muslim country exists globally. Hindu majority country only being India and we must have the first right on everything here. That doesn't mean minorities will be treated poorly but they need to understand one thing - Hindustan is for Hindus. Period And how do you plan to do that? Have quotas for hindus?
Alph Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Not sure about him but personally speaking I want India to be only for Hindus. There are so many Christian and Muslim country exists globally. Hindu majority country only being India and we must have the first right on everything here. That doesn't mean minorities will be treated poorly but they need to understand one thing - Hindustan is for Hindus. Period If you meant that India should officially be a Hindu nation but with the minorities granted their due rights, then I agree. I don't see why India should necessarily be secular to be a democracy. Infact, with an overwhelming majority of Hindus, a secular Constitution would go against the principles of democracy unless the majority agree to it. By the way, Nepal is also a Hindu majority nation and was officially a Hindu State until a few years ago.
gslv Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 What a butthurt article. I really enjoy the article whichich in disguise was indicating somehow islam is better than Sanatan dharma or any other dharmic faiths. Lol at the ppl who says god is only attainable through their faith. I pity them and their cult.
gslv Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 Regarding skull cap issue, why no one asks why no mohammadan wears a tilak. Go to pak you Hindu hating pakis.
FischerTal Posted September 14, 2014 Posted September 14, 2014 According to hariharan "Hindustani Naam hamara hain" :beee:
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