Texan Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I do not have any issue with what he has said. He is just repeating what his religious text has stated. What I am interested in seeing is how our "secular" politicians react to this. Every time Mohan Bhagwat opens his mouth, Mr. Mani Shankar Aiyar, Digvijay Singh, Nitish Kumar and many other "secular" politicians find the choicest of words to demean whatever he has said. It is to be seen what they will have to say to this. And I don't mean some obscure party MP from their party disagreeing with these views. I want to see these people themselves use the same vitriol that they use against the RSS. I want to see these leaders raise this issue in Parliament and condemn Owaisi publicly. I want to see them jump on to TV shows and talk with the same anger in which they ridicule the RSS. Now, are they going to do that?
jalebi_bhai Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I do not have any issue with what he has said. He is just repeating what his religious text has stated. What I am interested in seeing is how our "secular" politicians react to this. Every time Mohan Bhagwat opens his mouth, Mr. Mani Shankar Aiyar, Digvijay Singh, Nitish Kumar and many other "secular" politicians find the choicest of words to demean whatever he has said. It is to be seen what they will have to say to this. And I don't mean some obscure party MP from their party disagreeing with these views. I want to see these people themselves use the same vitriol that they use against the RSS. I want to see these leaders raise this issue in Parliament and condemn Owaisi publicly. I want to see them jump on to TV shows and talk with the same anger in which they ridicule the RSS. Now, are they going to do that? Won't happen........the only thing that might happen is that joker Ar-knob Goswami may invite Owaisi to his raj darbar and then proceed to have a joke of a debate......... This is just standard political trolling, Asaduddin Owaisi is one of the more sensible seculars (believe it or not)......he actually raises legitimate issues.......MIM largely caters to Muslim and Dalit votes........the party will never have pan-India appeal, but as long as they continue to divide the Muslim and Dalit votes.......they'll carve a niche for themselves....... His brother though......he is a different case altogether........no good cop-bad cop routine there........
Khalpat Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I am certainly being spoiled for choices here - someone says I am Hindu, another I am Muslim, another calls me a Pakistani, yet another a Haramzaada. Oh and also an ISI agent. It is sad to hear that someone is targeting you. Among all the posters you are the most humble, you never foul mouth, you are never judgemental, you never use any abusive language any individual of this planet. How can someone target a true gentleman like you. Please don't cry, we all are with you.
Kalia_Test Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Who made that statement? No Hindu party (RSS' date=' Shiv Sena BJP etc.) ever said that [b']all Indians are born Hindu by default. What they said is that India being a hindu majority country is a land of Hindus. But they never questioned the existence of Muslims, Christians etc. And I completely agree with that. Does Hindu people get same rights in Pakistan, Bangladesh, other Arab countries like Muslims? They are treated like sh!t. Not saying in India other religion people should be mistreated but everyone needs to understand Hindu's are first citizens of India. What Owaisi said is absurd and a retard statement. Its like questioning everyone's belief and origin. But nothing more can be expected from Owaisi sahab who even pass derogatory remark against his own muslim brothers. Salman Khan goes on to meet Modi and Owaisi called him "Hara***". His brother (Akbaruddin Owaisi) openly criticize Hindu gods and religion. He was even jailed due to these political remarks. These people are nut case, so lets leave it at that. Where did I mention that RSS/BJP said that? link RSS says all Indians are culturally hindus Swami from BJP says all Indians are both scientifically and historically Hindus. Since culture, scientific, history words were already adopted by RSS/BJP, Asad said Indians are born muslims... Also, you are ignoring that this is a reaction. If you say he is a nut case for this comment, I have no issues. Just that RSS and BJP have more than their share of nut cases.
bulbul Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 It is sad to hear that someone is targeting you. Among all the posters you are the most humble' date=' you never foul mouth, you are never judgemental, you never use any abusive language any individual of this planet. How can someone target a true gentleman like you. Please don't cry, we all are with you.[/quote'] Amen!
Texan Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 It is sad to hear that someone is targeting you. Among all the posters you are the most humble' date=' you never foul mouth, you are never judgemental, you never use any abusive language any individual of this planet. How can someone target a true gentleman like you. Please don't cry, we all are with you.[/quote'] I have already got emotional :sniffle:
FischerTal Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 It is sad to hear that someone is targeting you. Among all the posters you are the most humble' date=' you never foul mouth, you are never judgemental, you never use any abusive language any individual of this planet. How can someone target a true gentleman like you. Please don't cry, we all are with you.[/quote'] the guy is a born crybaby.
asterix Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 WTF does a scientifically Hindu mean? Those Hindus who are born Scientists.... :P
Raghav_12 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Good to see the way he turned the table back on that Bhagwat guy..:hysterical: On a serious note, religion keep getting more and more prominence in public sphere in India and that is not good.
hhunaeh Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 India is a union of minorities. If every fool goes around saying everyone is originally from my group, it will lead to trouble. Both owaisi and bhagwat are dangerous idiots.
Raghav_12 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 India is a union of minorities. If every fool goes around saying everyone is originally from my group' date=' it will lead to trouble. [b']Both owaisi and bhagwat are dangerous idiots. Exactly and they feed each other.
Khalpat Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 On a serious note' date=' religion keep getting more and more prominence in public sphere in India and that is not good.[/quote'] I would differ on this: Few years back: 1. Religion was the prominent issue for partition of India. 2. Religion was the reason why a certain part of India wanted another partition and is fighting for it from last 25 years. 3. Religion was the reason why people of a certain religion were kicked out from valley. 4. Religion was the reason why Rajeev Gandhi bowed down for Shahbano 5. Religion was the reason why Rajeev opened the gate of Ram Mandir 6. Religion was the reason why Vajpayee became the PM of country eighteen years back. 7. Religion was the reason why movie like "Jai Santoshi Maa" became the biggest blockbuster of 70's. 8. Religion was the reason for large scale riots of 47, 68, 84, 92, 02 riots 9. We never had any media discussion on religious issues Now: 1. Religion is not the reason of voting a person or making him the PM. 2. Anti - Religion movies like PK and OMG are big hits. 3. At no place any particular religion people are getting kicked out 4. Religious angle has been diluted from the reason for demand of getting independence in Kashmir. 5. No head of government either last UPA or present government has brought any communal law or favoured any religion(except one odd speech of Manmohan Singh where he said Muslims have first right) 6. No big riots are taking place anywhere except one or two instances. 7. Daily debates are happening on media channel touching sensitive religious topics.
achilles Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I would differ on this: Few years back: 1. Religion was the prominent issue for partition of India. 2. Religion was the reason why a certain part of India wanted another partition and is fighting for it from last 25 years. 3. Religion was the reason why people of a certain religion were kicked out from valley. 4. Religion was the reason why Rajeev Gandhi bowed down for Shahbano 5. Religion was the reason why Rajeev opened the gate of Ram Mandir 6. Religion was the reason why Vajpayee became the PM of country eighteen years back. 7. Religion was the reason why movie like "Jai Santoshi Maa" became the biggest blockbuster of 70's. 8. Religion was the reason for large scale riots of 47, 68, 84, 92, 02 riots 9. We never had any media discussion on religious issues Now: 1. Religion is not the reason of voting a person or making him the PM. 2. Anti - Religion movies like PK and OMG are big hits. 3. At no place any particular religion people are getting kicked out 4. Religious angle has been diluted from the reason for demand of getting independence in Kashmir. 5. No head of government either last UPA or present government has brought any communal law or favoured any religion(except one odd speech of Manmohan Singh where he said Muslims have first right) 6. No big riots are taking place anywhere except one or two instances. 7. Daily debates are happening on media channel touching sensitive religious topics. Thats an interesting list.
Kalia_Test Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I would differ on this: Few years back: 1. Religion was the prominent issue for partition of India. 2. Religion was the reason why a certain part of India wanted another partition and is fighting for it from last 25 years. 3. Religion was the reason why people of a certain religion were kicked out from valley. 4. Religion was the reason why Rajeev Gandhi bowed down for Shahbano 5. Religion was the reason why Rajeev opened the gate of Ram Mandir 6. Religion was the reason why Vajpayee became the PM of country eighteen years back. 7. Religion was the reason why movie like "Jai Santoshi Maa" became the biggest blockbuster of 70's. 8. Religion was the reason for large scale riots of 47, 68, 84, 92, 02 riots 9. We never had any media discussion on religious issues Now: 1. Religion is not the reason of voting a person or making him the PM. 2. Anti - Religion movies like PK and OMG are big hits. 3. At no place any particular religion people are getting kicked out 4. Religious angle has been diluted from the reason for demand of getting independence in Kashmir. 5. No head of government either last UPA or present government has brought any communal law or favoured any religion(except one odd speech of Manmohan Singh where he said Muslims have first right) 6. No big riots are taking place anywhere except one or two instances. 7. Daily debates are happening on media channel touching sensitive religious topics. Nice post :hatsoff:
Raghav_12 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I would differ on this: Few years back: 1. Religion was the prominent issue for partition of India. 2. Religion was the reason why a certain part of India wanted another partition and is fighting for it from last 25 years. 3. Religion was the reason why people of a certain religion were kicked out from valley. 4. Religion was the reason why Rajeev Gandhi bowed down for Shahbano 5. Religion was the reason why Rajeev opened the gate of Ram Mandir 6. Religion was the reason why Vajpayee became the PM of country eighteen years back. 7. Religion was the reason why movie like "Jai Santoshi Maa" became the biggest blockbuster of 70's. 8. Religion was the reason for large scale riots of 47, 68, 84, 92, 02 riots 9. We never had any media discussion on religious issues Now: 1. Religion is not the reason of voting a person or making him the PM. 2. Anti - Religion movies like PK and OMG are big hits. 3. At no place any particular religion people are getting kicked out 4. Religious angle has been diluted from the reason for demand of getting independence in Kashmir. 5. No head of government either last UPA or present government has brought any communal law or favoured any religion(except one odd speech of Manmohan Singh where he said Muslims have first right) 6. No big riots are taking place anywhere except one or two instances. 7. Daily debates are happening on media channel touching sensitive religious topics. You have tried to masquerade your wish list as fact. One example is enough to nip your theory, never earlier we had a religious organizations chief was given time on national TV like that Bhagwat guy was given. It is not even debatable the way right wing people have got emboldened under this govt.
Kalia_Test Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 You have tried to masquerade your wish list as fact. One example is enough to nip your theory' date=' never earlier we had a religious organizations chief was given time on national TV like that Bhagwat guy was given. It is not even debatable the way right wing people have got emboldened under this govt.[/quote'] Shahi Imam on Doordarshan program Rozaana in 2001...calling for political party for muslims - blatant violation of Representation of People's Act Ko8BIfP_19A I get your point though - It has more to do with autonomy of DD and Prasar Bharti...I hope you do remember that BJP was never given coverage in DD, Modi's interview was edited and delayed...extra-constitutional group members like National Advisory Committee under Sonia ( the group was not even part of Govt) getting interviewed in DD...lots of stuff
someone Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 You have tried to masquerade your wish list as fact. One example is enough to nip your theory' date=' never earlier we had a religious organizations chief was given time on national TV like that Bhagwat guy was given. It is not even debatable the way right wing people have got emboldened under this govt.[/quote'] What about Pope's address in Vatican 2013 shown at DD under UPA government ? And do see DD Podhigai, there are many Christian evangelical programmes.
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