Brainfade Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/msg-myth-versus-science/ What naturally occuring sources? Maida! @#$$%
Detonator Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Swiss govt and UBS slowly releasing the black money holders names. Nestle is a swiss company :hmmm:
mishra Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 :facepalm: People/media is worried about relative level of lead in Indian kids wrt American one. We have issue of malnutrition. I am not saying that both issues shouldnt be tackled, But dont compare it with America or Switzerland.
mishra Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Swiss govt and UBS slowly releasing the black money holders names. Nestle is a swiss company :hmmm: :secret: See who rules these states
Brainfade Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3259062/ Ayurvedic medicine is a traditional system native to India [1]. This system stresses the use of natural plant-based medicines, and minerals including sulfur, arsenic, lead, copper and gold are often added to formulations with the belief that these metals are essential components of vital molecules within the human body. In India, over 100 colleges offer degrees in traditional Ayurvedic medicine and in western countries, Ayurvedic medicine is gaining popularity as complementary treatment to modern medicine. Ayurvedic medicines are used to treat a wide spectrum of diseases from headaches to cancer. Currently, the United States does not specify a certification requirement for Ayurvedic practitioners, although many training programs are being offered through state-approved institutions. These practitioners are able to prescribe the medications and sometimes manufacture it themselves. From 2000 to 2003, the Centers for Disease Control reported 12 cases of lead poisoning in adults associated with Ayurvedic medication intake occurring in five different states [2]. Some Ayurvedic preparations have been found to contain contained lead and/or mercury at 100 to 10,000 times greater than acceptable limits [3]. Although not common in western societies, lead exposure through dietary sources is a well-recognized phenomenon and in past years, calcium supplements have been a source of lead poisoning [4]. In addition to Ayurvedic medicine, other traditional medicines originating from Asian, Middle Eastern and Hispanic cultures have been found to contain lead and other heavy metals [5]. Although many health supplements are now subject to limited government regulation in the U.S. through the Dietary Supplement and Health Education Act of 1994, these medicines are readily obtainable as herbal remedies in health food stores and through the internet and their safety and efficacy are not regulated by government agencies such as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) [6]. Thus, without sufficient public awareness, the risk of heavy metal exposure in individuals taking these supplements is quite high. Here, we present a case of lead poisoning secondary to ingestion of Indian Ayurvedic medicine, Jambrulin. So, when are they going to ban Ayurvedic preparations? Oh wait ... we can't do that. It's not a big bad Western corporation selling that stuff, is it?
Donal Cozzie Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Swiss govt and UBS slowly releasing the black money holders names. Nestle is a swiss company :hmmm: Do Nestle make this stuff? Some of the things they did in Africa are truly disgusting
amiret Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Judging by the media Frenzy one would think Maggi was a staple food in India . ^^ and that washington post indian bureau journalist has been infected by typical indian "Latak Gaya" journalism. "Some analysts" ? What kind of "Some analysts" . Equity analysts , defence analysts , systems analysts or some product of her febrile imagination ?
Kalia_Test Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Wow - Nestle Global CEO is in India answering queries and Nestle has withdrawn Maggi from all over india saying they don't want confusion. Imports of Maggi from India to Nepal,Singapore,etc are stopped. UK is taking cue from India and ordered tests on Maggi imported from India http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/food/maggi-lead-scare-uk-takes-cue-begins-testing-noodle-brand/articleshow/47550099.cms For global Nestle, Maggi from India is probably less than 1% of revenues ( must be 0.1 or so ) but the brand damage can be enormous. Knorr and ITC have increased their noodle ads to take advantage but some news that all brands of noodles will be tested. Interesting times ahead.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Wow - Nestle Global CEO is in India answering queries and Nestle has withdrawn Maggi from all over india saying they don't want confusion. Imports of Maggi from India to Nepal,Singapore,etc are stopped. UK is taking cue from India and ordered tests on Maggi imported from India http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/food/maggi-lead-scare-uk-takes-cue-begins-testing-noodle-brand/articleshow/47550099.cms For global Nestle, Maggi from India is probably less than 1% of revenues ( must be 0.1 or so ) but the brand damage can be enormous. Knorr and ITC have increased their noodle ads to take advantage but some news that all brands of noodles will be tested. Interesting times ahead. Its not about Maggi.Its about getting booted from the 6th largest and the fastest growing economy in the world.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Do Nestle make this stuff? Some of the things they did in Africa are truly disgusting Yes they do..Its a very popular instant noodle among children for a long time.
sscomp32 Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Wow - Nestle Global CEO is in India answering queries and Nestle has withdrawn Maggi from all over india saying they don't want confusion. Imports of Maggi from India to Nepal,Singapore,etc are stopped. UK is taking cue from India and ordered tests on Maggi imported from India http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/cons-products/food/maggi-lead-scare-uk-takes-cue-begins-testing-noodle-brand/articleshow/47550099.cms For global Nestle, Maggi from India is probably less than 1% of revenues ( must be 0.1 or so ) but the brand damage can be enormous. Knorr and ITC have increased their noodle ads to take advantage but some news that all brands of noodles will be tested. Interesting times ahead. Here all shops have removed every brand of instant noodles because everything is maggi. :haha: Infact even the ITC noodles were being sold as "Laal wala maggi" because their packet is red. :cantstop: Also Nestle is saying maggi is completely safe and we are removing it despite being safe to avoid confusion.
amiret Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I wonder if people have started selling Maggi in BLACK near IT companies and college hostels. :--D
Donal Cozzie Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Go to 1:30 for Nestle u-yForoAZ3U Pretty sure they told mothers in underdeveloped parts of Africa their babymilk formula was 10 X better than natural breastmilk. They believed them and flocked to buy it (even though it wasnt even safe). Then weeks later when they realised Nestle had basically lied they had no choice but to keep buying it as the mothers had stopped producing breastmilk themselves.
amiret Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Nestle CEO : "We do not add MSG in Maggi noodles " What the Nestle CEO does not tell you is : NO MSG added , does not mean it does not exist in the product . :regular_smile: MSG is created automatically as part of the manufacturing process . " Hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP) is produced by boiling foods such as soy, corn, or wheat in hydrochloric acid and then neutralizing the solution with sodium hydroxide. The acid breaks down the protein in vegetables into their component amino acids. One of the amino acids in the dark-coloured liquid that's left is glutamic acid. Consumers are more familiar with glutamic acid in the form of its sodium salt — monosodium glutamate, or MSG."
rkt.india Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 What the Nestle CEO does not tell you is : NO MSG added , does not mean it does not exist in the product . :regular_smile: MSG is created automatically as part of the manufacturing process . " Hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP) is produced by boiling foods such as soy, corn, or wheat in hydrochloric acid and then neutralizing the solution with sodium hydroxide. The acid breaks down the protein in vegetables into their component amino acids. One of the amino acids in the dark-coloured liquid that's left is glutamic acid. Consumers are more familiar with glutamic acid in the form of its sodium salt — monosodium glutamate, or MSG." What's wrong with MSG?
amiret Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 What's wrong with MSG? I am not sure . I don't know if dietary glutamate results in excitotoxicity . but i would like the labeling to be clear and Not be misleading and enable consumers to make choices on their own .
zen Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 There is no min safe limit for lead so it is good to see such products being recalled (or banned) .... However, such incidences are just the tip of the iceberg. There were pesticides found in some soft drinks as well .... At all levels, there is a lot of adulteration going on in the Indian market for e.g. even the local baniya would mix stones with dal, etc. .... Ind needs to have a comprehensive policy on such matters, along with on medicines One of the worst examples of malpractice (or corporate unethical conduct) is Ford Pinto. If I am not wrong, Ford got a lot of negative press and had to pay fines because it deliberately overlooked the problem. Ford had calculated that it would be more economical to pay the compensation to those who suffered from product malfunction than actually replace/fix the problem! Luckily, for the customers, the issue was discovered and Ford had to eventually discontinue the model PS Fuel tank controversy[edit] The Pinto suffered from a design flaw related to the positioning of its fuel tank, although this design was also used in many other compact cars.[15] It was located between the rear axle and the rear bumper, and in a crash, the filler neck could tear away from the tank, spilling fuel beneath the car. The tank itself could also be punctured by the protruding bolts of the differential.[4][16][17][18] Aware of the flaw, Ford released the car for production.[19][20] The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration investigated complaints as early as 1974, taking action subsequent to a 1977 article in Mother Jones.[13][21] The article said that Ford was aware of the design flaw, refused to pay for a redesign, and decided it would be cheaper to pay off possible lawsuits. The magazine obtained a cost-benefit analysis that it said Ford had used to compare the cost of repairs (Ford estimated the cost to be $11 per car) against the cost of settlements for deaths, injuries, and vehicle burnouts, although it was not written specifically about the Pinto and only analyzed rollover in detail.[22] The document became known as the Ford Pinto Memo, but was explicitly ruled to be not admissible as evidence in the Grimshaw trial.[13][17][23][24] The design and recall of the Pinto, as well as the Pinto Memo are cited in case studies of business ethics.[19][21][25][26] PSS Newshour Debate LJIdAx7Z9yc
Sachin=GOD Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Ramdev makes Maggi a desi vs bideshi war, pitches 'healthy' Patanjali-made noodles http://m.firstpost.com/business/ramdev-makes-maggi-a-desi-vs-bideshi-war-pitches-healthy-patanjali-made-noodles-2283144.html?utm_source=fp_hp Gotta say the guy is turning out to be a rather shrewd businessman.
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