gakgupta Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Both of them done well....but liked kuldeep better... Can someone here analyse both of them and tell what is working for them and who have a batter chance to succeed in Intl cricket Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk tweaker 1
gakgupta Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 Or pink ball is working better for kuldeep Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
tweaker Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Iam not an expert,but Kuldeep has more control & variations. He had tied down Parthiv Patel,Patel had scored only 1 run from 42 balls bowled by Kuldeep.And Kuldeep had the last laugh by having his wickets. I think he is ready for home test series.
gakgupta Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 Iam not an expert,but Kuldeep has more control & variations. He had tied down Parthiv Patel,Patel had scored only 1 run from 42 balls bowled by Kuldeep.And Kuldeep had the last laugh by having his wickets. I think he is ready for home test series. Is he better than Mishra? Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
tweaker Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 1 minute ago, gakgupta said: Is he better than Mishra? Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Mishra is on the wrong side of 35,wheras Kuldeep is very young,so it will be beneficial for team to invest in him now. Kuldeep will only improve with experience,whearas Mishra had a lot of time to cement his place in the team express bowling, Tibarn and Mosher 3
Mosher Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) Both are good. Kuldeep is unique because not many chinaman bowlers are around. Kuldeep has all the variations needed to succeed in international cricket and he is accurate too. Earlier he was a bit fat and lacked fitness but now he is looking a lot leaner and fitter. While Shreyas is an all rounder and has played a few gritty knocks for Karnataka in the middle order. Shreyas came into the Karnataka side as a middle order batsman who could bowl a bit of legspin but has now become its lead spinner. Shreyas has a good googly and gets good turn and bounce on his legspinners. Both can add value to the Indian side in future. Kuldeep as a spinner and Shreyas as an all rounder. Edited August 25, 2016 by Mosher tweaker, Forever Indian and express bowling 3
express bowling Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Shreyas Gopal got consistent turn and bounce with his leg-spinners. Got the ball to zip off the deck often. He has a good googly too and uses it intelligently. He even used variations in the degrees of spin, which can be a very important tool for getting international wickets. He planned his dismissals today and I really liked his bowling a lot. He is a decent batsman too and that is a big plus. As we are looking for as many all-rounders as possible, he can be very useful to Team India. Kuldeep Yadav got turn and bounce in the first innings. In the second, he did not get as much turn. His specialty seems to be the variations that he has. He was setting up batsmen beautifully and has a very good flipper. He obviously has wicket-taking ability and that is a big plus. I would like him to try to spin the ball, every time he comes in to bowl....he has the ability and should use it always. This is one improvement i would like to see from him. Two young wrist-spinners, one a leg-break bowler/ all-rounder and another a chinaman bowler doing well in an important match.......exciting times ahead for Indian bowling. Mosher 1
gattaca Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 28 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shreyas Gopal got consistent turn and bounce with his leg-spinners. Got the ball to zip off the deck often. He has a good googly too and uses it intelligently. He even used variations in the degrees of spin, which can be a very important tool for getting international wickets. He planned his dismissals today and I really liked his bowling a lot. He is a decent batsman too and that is a big plus. As we are looking for as many all-rounders as possible, he can be very useful to Team India. Kuldeep Yadav got turn and bounce in the first innings. In the second, he did not get as much turn. His specialty seems to be the variations that he has. He was setting up batsmen beautifully and has a very good flipper. He obviously has wicket-taking ability and that is a big plus. I would like him to try to spin the ball, every time he comes in to bowl....he has the ability and should use it always. This is one improvement i would like to see from him. Two young wrist-spinners, one a leg-break bowler/ all-rounder and another a chinaman bowler doing well in an important match.......exciting times ahead for Indian bowling. Exciting times are only if they are given chances. I dont see it happening soon.
gakgupta Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 Shreyas Gopal got consistent turn and bounce with his leg-spinners. Got the ball to zip off the deck often. He has a good googly too and uses it intelligently. He even used variations in the degrees of spin, which can be a very important tool for getting international wickets. He planned his dismissals today and I really liked his bowling a lot. He is a decent batsman too and that is a big plus. As we are looking for as many all-rounders as possible, he can be very useful to Team India. Kuldeep Yadav got turn and bounce in the first innings. In the second, he did not get as much turn. His specialty seems to be the variations that he has. He was setting up batsmen beautifully and has a very good flipper. He obviously has wicket-taking ability and that is a big plus. I would like him to try to spin the ball, every time he comes in to bowl....he has the ability and should use it always. This is one improvement i would like to see from him. Two young wrist-spinners, one a leg-break bowler/ all-rounder and another a chinaman bowler doing well in an important match.......exciting times ahead for Indian bowling. Bro....I haven't seen kuldeep before...so I don't know if he can turn the ball.... But u have to consider the dew factor.... U go anywhere in India and u will have dew in the evening....I am sure he had a hard time gripping the ball.... On the other hand gopal bowled in the morning... Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
express bowling Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gakgupta said: Bro....I haven't seen kuldeep before...so I don't know if he can turn the ball.... But u have to consider the dew factor.... U go anywhere in India and u will have dew in the evening....I am sure he had a hard time gripping the ball.... On the other hand gopal bowled in the morning... Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk I have seen Kuldeep bowl a few times in the afternoon. He has the ability to turn the ball consistently but does not always give the ball enough revs. Edited August 25, 2016 by express bowling
gakgupta Posted August 25, 2016 Author Posted August 25, 2016 I have seen Kuldeep bowl a few times in the afternoon. He has the ability to turn the ball consistently but does not always give the ball enough revs. Revolutions....thats very very important.... Ur tricks and variations can be easily figured out by Intl batsmen.....what will u do after that...... As a spinner imparting revolutions is very important.....by doing that u will get nice drift and loop....only quality batsmen can play u.... Even I observed that he is not putting enough revolutions on the ball Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk tweaker 1
express bowling Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 20 minutes ago, gattaca said: Exciting times are only if they are given chances. I dont see it happening soon. They are very young and time is on their side. Besides, Mishra has not really impressed and a leg-spinner's slot may open up soon.
express bowling Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, gakgupta said: Revolutions....thats very very important.... Ur tricks and variations can be easily figured out by Intl batsmen.....what will u do after that...... As a spinner imparting revolutions is very important.....by doing that u will get nice drift and loop....only quality batsmen can play u.... Even I observed that he is not putting enough revolutions on the ball Kuldeep Yadav is a rare talent and has the ability to take wickets. But, he needs to work with a good coach who will iron out his weaknesses. He needs one more solid domestic season along with Nathu Singh. Mosher and tweaker 2
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 http://www.starsports.com/cricket/tour/duleep-trophy-425/matchvideos/vod/video=duleep-trophy-2016-india-green-india-red-kuldeep-sets-india-red-for-win/index.html These are the 5 wickets taken by Kuldeep Yadav in the Duleep trophy Match one ,second innings. Watch how no one is reading his variations as he takes wickets with the orthodox Chinaman,Chinaman Googly and the Flipper. About time he gets more chances and for that he has to leave UP,because Piyush Chawla is the captain there and he will not give Kuldeep chances there. Mosher and tweaker 2
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 There cant be vs among them, as they wont be competing for same spot Gopal is an all rounder who i would consider for No 6 in overseas with his leg spin options. But he has to improve his batting a lot. Right now he comes across as bits n pieces. His bowling would be a lot better after this season. Hoping this time their are proper wkts rather than lush green outfield. Karnataka also has to make him bat up to make sure his batting improves. Kuldeep is a genuine spinner, whom i wont mind throwing in upcoming home season. Any avg spinner would become dangerous on those rank turner against Eng, NZ, Aus then this guy is rare talent imagine how much can he excel. Better for him to play for India against those batsman rather than sitting on bench for UP to accomodate Chawla. Kuldeep would enjoy those batsman, pitches and Sg ball . Also he could learn a lot under kumble. I would also prefer to go with him as 3rd spinner after ashwin n jadeja rather than mishra. Generally leg spinner have that X-factor which mishra lacks and kuldeep has got it. This home series could be an ideal chance to try someone like Kuldeep yadav. Enough of tried n tested guys like mishra, bhajji, ojha. tweaker 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 Would really like to see how he bowls to gambhir in next game , gambhir is still one of the best players of spin bowling and being in kkr he would be well use to his bowling. Who know Pujara might also play that game. It will be a good challenge for Kuldeep. If he gets those two out that would be hard to ignore for anyone. tweaker, express bowling and sandeep 3
express bowling Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) The bowlers on display in the Duleep Trophy, both pacers and spinners, are more exciting than most A team bowlers who mare actually in the playing 11. ( We haven't seen Aaron or Sran yet ) Edited August 25, 2016 by express bowling Mosher, MCcricket and tweaker 3
fineleg Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) Gautam Gambhir vs Kuldeep Yadav and Nathu Singh on. So far GG is the winner. http://www.espncricinfo.com/duleep-trophy-2016-17/engine/match/1044941.html Gambhir, batting with an open-chested stance, seemingly in a bid to negate the away-going deliveries that have often discomfited him over a period of time, was troubled early on by his Delhi team-mate Sangwan. In the third over of the morning, the left-arm pacer saw an edge fall short of second slip and then had a shout for lbw turned down, but released the pressure in the very next over when he grassed a miscued pull at fine leg off Nathu. Agarwal, who had a lucky reprieve minutes from the tea break when he fended a Nathu bouncer back for a return catch off a no-ball, got to his fifty in the second over after the break when he lofted Kuldeep over the infield. Edited August 29, 2016 by fineleg tweaker 1
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