Would you pick Dhoni over Mccullum or Sangakkara as your keeper-batsmen in tests?

[maniac]

27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

In Asia....Dhoni

 

Outside Asia ....Sangakkara

Sangakkara not in SC  not laughing at you but you are going to exclude one of the greatest HTB's of all time in SC

Edited December 9, 2016 by maniac

[Vijy]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

Sangakkara not in SC  not laughing at you but you are going to exclude one of the greatest HTB's of all time in SC

I think that "express bowling" was only comparing their records when they both kept. Sanga scored heavily at home even as a keeper, but Dhoni also has an outstanding record in India (over much larger sample size as keeper + batsman).

[Vilander]

Only tests

 

WK - Dhoni=Gilly>Flower>Bmac>Sanga.

 

Batting - Sanga>Gilly>Flower>Bmac>Dhoni

 

Its Gilly>Flower>Dhoni=Sanga>Bmac

 

In ODI

 

WK Gilly = Dhoni = Sanga > Flower > Bmac

 

Batting - Dhoni>Sanga>Gilly>Bmac >Flower

 

Its  Dhoni>Sanga>Gilly>Bmac=Flower.

 

 

But Sanga kept in too few tests so not sure if he would have continued as a good keeper.

 

Amazingly Bmac is not that good, but for his super-fast daddy hundreds.

 

Overall in Tests + ODI as a WK batsman.

 

Gilly>Dhoni>Sanga>Flower>Bmac

 

 

[Vilander]

Funny how its as expected and amazingly Sanga has a good ODI keeping record because of Murali and Flower was a very good Test bat too bad he did not play more.

[express bowling]

9 minutes ago, maniac said:

Sangakkara not in SC  not laughing at you but you are going to exclude one of the greatest HTB's of all time in SC

No...I will play Sangakkara as a pure batsman in Asia......as  Dhoni is a superb keeper against  vicious spinning deliveries and a good batsman for a keeper.

 

Outside Asia...Dhoni was not that good and Sanga can do the WK's job.

Edited December 9, 2016 by express bowling

[Vijy]

Just now, express bowling said:

No...I will play Sangakkara as a pure batsman in Asia......as  Dhoni is a superb keeper against  vicious spinning deliveries.

That, and the fact that he averages around 47-48 in India also helps.

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Funny how its as expected and amazingly Sanga has a good ODI keeping record because of Murali and Flower was a very good Test bat too bad he did not play more.

A world class bat. Averaging 50 was not so easy as in later times. One of the great underrated players - in one match against SA, he single-handedly carried the batting.

[Ankit_sharma03]

In test - gilly has to be there, if not him ill have andy flower

In Odi- Dhoni has to be there for as he gives me so many options like captaincy, finisher. Ill play gilly n dhoni both 

[mancalledsting]

As pure batsmen: 

 

sangakarra

maccullum

dhoni

 

as a wicket keeper 

 

maccullum

dhoni

sangakarra

 

 

But to be fair, dhoni never got the chance to play as pure batsmen (if I'm not mistaken other two's batting greatly improved on dropping gloves and moving up the order). I feel dhoni never fulfilled his true batting potential (due to being overworked- his own fault though as he just couldn't bare to share power in order to protect his financial interests) 

[maniac]

5 minutes ago, mancalledsting said:

As pure batsmen: 

 

sangakarra

maccullum

dhoni

 

as a wicket keeper 

 

maccullum

dhoni

sangakarra

 

 

But to be fair, dhoni never got the chance to play as pure batsmen (if I'm not mistaken other two's batting greatly improved on dropping gloves and moving up the order). I feel dhoni never fulfilled his true batting potential (due to being overworked- his own fault though as he just couldn't bare to share power in order to protect his financial interests) 

More or less my analysis....so if I draw the curve for the keeper-bat ,Mccullum it is

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Vijy said:

A world class bat. Averaging 50 was not so easy as in later times. One of the great underrated players - in one match against SA, he single-handedly carried the batting.

Well I'm sure Flower's numbers in India boosted his avg quite a bit.  We went through a bad few years with touring south-paw batsmen - him, Hadyen, Chanderpaul just kept getting stuck in...

[Vijy]

35 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Well I'm sure Flower's numbers in India boosted his avg quite a bit.  We went through a bad few years with touring south-paw batsmen - him, Hadyen, Chanderpaul just kept getting stuck in...

Yes, they did but it was also because he was extremely effective. At around the same time, Gilly, Punter, etc. were failing too.