Short ball: a new chink in Kohli's Armour?

[vayuu1]

On slow pitches, when he is early at the crease, the Indian captain appears to be susceptible against the short ball

 

Déjà vu

 

This series might not be very significant, but West Indies bowlers might have given clues for other teams to build on: Virat Kohlidoesn't like it up there, especially on slower pitches. Kohli has batted four times, and West Indies have given him a fair share of bouncers when he is just in, and Kohli has struggled initially before becoming comfortable. On Sunday, he didn't look at ease at all, and eventually perished to the short ball.

 

So what do you think is short ball a new problem for Kohli after outswing outside off stump.

 

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[kubrickian]

Nothing like that. He plays the short ball quite well and has scored against them in hundreds of games, why would it become a problem now ? Only problem is the pitches in WI are really sluggish. So you need to cut down on horizontal bat shots especially pull or hook as you cant time the ball well and its lot more tougher to judge the pace of a short delivery on such pitches. If the bounce or pace is true, you can play those shots more confidently.

 

At the moment, he is not showing enough grit to stay at the crease and grind it out and playing some reckless shots and getting out.

Edited July 3, 2017 by kubrickian

[maniac]

1 minute ago, kubrickian said:

Nothing like that. He plays the short ball quite well and has scored against them in hundreds of games, why would it become a problem now ? Only problem is the pitches in WI are really sluggish. So you need to cut down on horizontal bat shots especially pull or hook as you cant time the ball well. If the bounce or pace is true, you can play those shots more confidently. Because this is not an important series, he is playing some reckless shots and getting out.

Agreed...only problem seems to be 4th stump line in bowling friendly conditions but again that is a problem for 90% of anyone who bats and 100% for every attackign batsman who likes to get on with it.

 

Nothing to be concerned about

[Sidhoni]

Pitches/conditions where 300 is not the par score is the real "chink" in the armour.

[Nonbeliever]

He needs easy pitches,poor attacks to score.  How many runs has he scored against quality attacks on bowler friendly pitches. And how good is he when ball swing even a inch

 

Edited July 3, 2017 by Nonbeliever

[kubrickian]

6 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

He needs easy pitches,poor attacks to score.  How many runs has he scored against quality attacks on bowler friendly pitches. And how good is he when ball swing even a inch

 

Quite a few actually. He is one of the few batsmen who can play his natural game even on tough pitches.

[SK_IH]

15 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

He needs easy pitches,poor attacks to score.  How many runs has he scored against quality attacks on bowler friendly pitches. And how good is he when ball swing even a inch

 

lol he is best odi batsman in the world ,even when he is not at his best he has scored 3-4 50s 

[Nonbeliever]

4 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

Quite a few actually. He is one of the few batsmen who can play his natural game even on tough pitches.

I don't seem to remember any of such great inings.

[Nonbeliever]

4 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

lol he is best odi batsman in the world ,even when he is not at his best he has scored 3-4 50s 

Give me one single quality attacks in odi cricket. Against which Kohli played a great inings in tough conditions.  

[kubrickian]

3 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

I don't seem to remember any of such great inings.

That's because you have a short memory. 2013 Johnnesburg test vs SA, 2016 Vizag test vs Eng, runs scored in SA tests in India which were all tough pitches among tons of others in ODIs and T20s. He is unlike a few other "great" batsmen who scores runs for records. His runs contribute to wins. 

[SK_IH]

6 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

Give me one single quality attacks in odi cricket. Against which Kohli played a great inings in tough conditions.  

quality attack tough conditions wtf you mean by that,by that you have already given away your hand,if i list innings you ll say flat wkt or ordinary bowling attack

basically every innings chasing more than 300 is a great odi innings and he has plenty of those

 

 

[Nonbeliever]

Just because opposition cat play spin the conditions become tough.  Johannesburg 1400 runs scored in the match. 

[kubrickian]

1 minute ago, Nonbeliever said:

Just because opposition cat play spin the conditions become tough.  Johannesburg 1400 runs scored in the match. 

This is what happens if you just by stats and didnt watch the game. The pitch was quite tough to bat in first innings and then flattened out eventually. SA got bowled out for 244. When Kohli came out to bat, it was 20 odd for 2. Then he counter attacked Steyn, Morkel, Philander and Kallis. 

 

Anyway, this is a useless argument because Kohli is a proved match winner. 

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

2 hours ago, Sidhoni said:

Pitches/conditions where 300 is not the par score is the real "chink" in the armour.

Bingo

[Vijy]

Seems to be a temporary kink, but it's certainly existent at the moment.

[Rasgulla]

Played well today.... decent pitch 

[King Tendulkar]

Well that weakness lasted long