Lannister Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 (edited) He's fat and unfit and age is not on his side to rectify all that. He has done his job in his limited international career and it's time to move on before he becomes a Dhoni. Edited August 10, 2017 by Lannister Bigg Brother and Khota 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, Lannister said: He's fat and unfit and age is not on his side to rectify all that. He has done his job in his limited international career and it's time to move on before he becomes a Dhoni. Dont say anything negative about Ashwin. People around here take it personally and will start insulting you. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 12 hours ago, express bowling said: This is supposed to be standard stuff for spinners these days. Warne was discussing this delivery recently and outlining the importance of putting a lot of revs on the ball to get success with this delivery. I want to know what RPS Ashwin bowls at. Mooen and Maharaj were bowling 36 to 38 RPS on a regular basis when they were doing well in England. Quote Trackman measures the revolutions per minute that spin bowlers impart on the ball. Inevitably, wrist spinners tend to be higher than finger spinners and of England's leading men Adil Rashid possessed a higher average rpm (2,312) than Graeme Swann (2,083). 34 rps for Swann and 38 for Adil Rashid. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: 34 rps for Swann and 38 for Adil Rashid. Which is why it is important to play a wrist spinner when we travel outside Asia. He may get more purchase on unhelpful tracks. Kuldeep must be developed for tests. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: Which is why it is important to play a wrist spinner when we travel outside Asia. He may get more purchase on unhelpful tracks. Kuldeep must be developed for tests. Yes, I think Indian team missed the trick by not giving 2 tests. It's difficult to drop Ashwin and Jadeja, but considering that you always need 1 spinner in the team, it was better to try Kuldeep over Pandya who is most likely to be 4th pacer in team. Link to comment
Khota Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 I find it hard to believe someone can put more than 2000 revolutions per minute with fingers. I think those numbers are wrong. Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 15 hours ago, Vilander said: he is a very clever player, just a matter of time before he begins to do better overseas. He gives impression of being clever than he actually is. Not to say he is dumb though. Khota 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 53 minutes ago, Pollack said: He gives impression of being clever than he actually is. Not to say he is dumb though. lol you dont use the zen art i taught you on me and hope to be effective.. muahahaha Link to comment
Khota Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 So where are all the Ashwin lovers. As I mentioned before he is one of 5 good spinners India has. This blind Ashwin manlove is pathetic. yadav is equally effective. Ahwin needs to fight for his place on the team. That is the bottom line. He was the worst spinner in CT. Absolutely the worst. On 8/9/2017 at 4:26 PM, Vilander said: yup thats right he is much better at this point in his career than harbhajan ever was I guess Yadav is better than him. I wont stoop to your level. Link to comment
Khota Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/6/2017 at 2:27 AM, Gollum said: Who cares about body fat % when the player wins you matches and series' in a way no cricketer in history has done before? Joke of a post by you. What do you think of yadav? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 8/10/2017 at 7:09 AM, Lannister said: He's fat and unfit and age is not on his side to rectify all that. He has done his job in his limited international career and it's time to move on before he becomes a Dhoni. We are not talking about amit mishra or yuvraj singh Link to comment
Khota Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We are not talking about amit mishra or yuvraj singh No we are talking about Ashwin. He is fat and unfit. I think as a spinner Amit Mishra is about the same as Ashwin. A fat yuvraj is better than fat Ashwin. Both are notthat good. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, Khota said: No we are talking about Ashwin. He is fat and unfit. I think as a spinner Amit Mishra is about the same as Ashwin. A fat yuvraj is better than fat Ashwin. Both are notthat good. Mishra was failure in test cricket at home only forget overseas if u knw stats A fat ashwin is a better test batsman then yuvraj singh, and ashwin is a bowler in 1st place Ashwin is fat and may be unfit acc to moderns standards, but he isnt that poor in regds to fitness that ur making out . Even in helpful conditions the records he has achieved is not an easy one....... Same pitches were given to mishra n bhajji who failed Link to comment
Khota Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Mishra was failure in test cricket at home only forget overseas if u knw stats A fat ashwin is a better test batsman then yuvraj singh, and ashwin is a bowler in 1st place Ashwin is fat and may be unfit acc to moderns standards, but he isnt that poor in regds to fitness that ur making out . Even in helpful conditions the records he has achieved is not an easy one....... Same pitches were given to mishra n bhajji who failed Mishra never got the same opportunities as Ashwin. Bhajji never was a failure. Age caught upto him. I will pick both Mishra and Bhajji over Ashwin in ODI and T20. Test is a toss up. Ashwin was the worst bowler in CT. Absolutely the worst. Lke bottom bad. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Khota said: Mishra never got the same opportunities as Ashwin. Bhajji never was a failure. Age caught upto him. I will pick both Mishra and Bhajji over Ashwin in ODI and T20. Test is a toss up. Ashwin was the worst bowler in CT. Absolutely the worst. Lke bottom bad. U want me to show u mishra's stats at home. Its not about many oppourtunties its about what u do in those opportunities . He debut 7-8 yrs prior to mishra......n what did mishra do wen he got a chance before ashwin in Overseas in 2011 eng tour Bhajji got chances to comeback on same rank turner time n again n he failed. I heard spinners get better with age so dnt give me that BS. Bhajji was struggling from years that y he got dropped and ashwin made his way Didnt they both play in the same game in Sa odi series when ashwin was injured and opp scored 400+ No one is saying ashwin has been good in Odi, but ur coming up with worst options Edited August 13, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Khota Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: U want me to show u mishra's stats at home. Its not about many oppourtunties its about what u do in those opportunities . He debut 7-8 yrs prior to mishra......n what did mishra do wen he got a chance before ashwin in Overseas in 2011 eng tour Bhajji got chances to comeback on same rank turner time n again n he failed. I heard spinners get better with age so dnt give me that BS. Bhajji was struggling from years that y he got dropped and ashwin made his way Didnt they both play in the same game in Sa odi series when ashwin was injured and opp scored 400+ No one is saying ashwin has been good in Odi, but ur coming up with worst options Once again test stats dont tell the complete story. bhajji was bowling in tandem with Kumble hence his yield was less. Once again Mishra never got enough chances. This series both Jaddu and Yaday have out bowled Ashwin. yes he is fat. He was the worst bowler in CT. Did I mention he is overweight and unfit. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Khota said: Once again test stats dont tell the complete story. bhajji was bowling in tandem with Kumble hence his yield was less. Once again Mishra never got enough chances. This series both Jaddu and Yaday have out bowled Ashwin. yes he is fat. He was the worst bowler in CT. Did I mention he is overweight and unfit. M talking about bhajji return series till then kumble retired and bhajji played for 4-5 regulalry after kumble retirment Bhajji returned back many times , 2013 series against aus wheree jadeja was playing as an all rounder and became a 2nd spinner in bhajji presence He returned in Bang n Sl, where ashwin got fifers and he was ineffective to core Mishra has played 10 test at home and thats not less and he picks wkts at home at an avg of 31, really ur telling me he is better bowler then ashwin he has played 22 test and thats more then enough yadav has only bowled 1 innings .....how has he played whole series He is over weight, yet he dived today and caused a run out . Mishra is overweight then ashwin and bhajji has become a very slow fielder check recent ipls The last time mishra dived...... Edited August 13, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, Khota said: He was the worst bowler in CT. So , he bowled really well in Ct 2013 and did well in Wc 2015 there wud some series which u wnt do well ......... What is the point of repeating about LOI format when the thread is about his perfomance in test cricket Link to comment
Vilander Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 42 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So , he bowled really well in Ct 2013 and did well in Wc 2015 there wud some series which u wnt do well ......... What is the point of repeating about LOI format when the thread is about his perfomance in test cricket Point is harbhajan singh Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, Vilander said: Point is harbhajan singh That point went past his expiry date long ago. Good that he has strated exploring other careers like cricket expert Link to comment
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