Trichromatic Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Ravichandran Ashwin's 50 means he becomes just the 4th India player to complete the 2,000 runs-200 wickets double in Tests #SLvInd pic.twitter.com/xMmro0Rzmy— ICC (@ICC) August 4, 2017 How long before R Ashwin (2004 runs and 279 wickets) completes the double of 3000 runs and 300 wickets? https://t.co/Gi1cf7Cj5T #SLvIND pic.twitter.com/VEtm6eqKQL— ESPNcricinfo (@ESPNcricinfo) August 4, 2017 Ravichandran Ashwin is part of quite an elite club in being the fourth fastest to reach the 2,000 runs - 200 wickets double in Tests #SLvInd pic.twitter.com/c4YaRDQqcl— ICC (@ICC) August 4, 2017 velu 1 Link to comment
gakgupta Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 what a test cricketer.... Best test allrounder in the world now..... Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 If he ends up with anything less than 4000 runs and 600 test wickets then it is an underachievement. oh yeah and hope he ends with an batting-bowling average difference of atleast 10 points. ideally 25 Bowling and 35 Batting Link to comment
Pollack Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Very good test batsman. A spin track bully bowler and a great one at it. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 biggest indian match winner since kumble JaFanatic, Forever Indian and Ankit_sharma03 2 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Pollack said: Very good test batsman. A spin track bully bowler and a great one at it. As an AR though you couldn't ask for a better combo . Hes a better batsmen on pace friendly pitches than some of our top order bats and hes lethal as a bowler when the pitch offers some spin . Temujin Khaghan and Forever Indian 2 Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Many calling for his head before first test lol Edited August 4, 2017 by King Tendulkar Link to comment
Gollum Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) He is kinda like Sehwag. Not that good in certain conditions but in SC+WI a fearsome match winner. Match winners like Viru and Ash you can count on one hand. We need such players if we are to be consistently ranked in the top. Without a guy like Ashwin we wouldn't be sweeping the opponents like we have been doing since 2015. Granted they are familiar conditions but to be a great team, home dominance is a prerequisite. Check the ATG WI and Aus teams, they would crush opponents mercilessly in their backyard. Even in other sports like football, basketball, tennis if you have home domination or court domination(eg surfaces in tennis like clay for Rafa) you can be rest assured to be a top dog in the rankings even if you aren't that good in foreign territory/weaker surfaces. In the 2000s we let off too many teams lightly with modest 1-0 wins in stead of crushing them at home. When we finally had that bad run in 2011 within a span of 6-7 months we fell from no 1 to no 6. SA made the same mistake in recent years. Even though Proteas have a tremendous record overseas their 1-0/1-1/2-1 and occasional home losses to Aus and Eng ensured they were never no 1 for long. Man to man that SA team was almost as good as Ponting's team but never had that ruthlessness at home. Without the crushing victories in the last 3 years in which Ash was the main player, we wouldn't be no 1 or be no 1 with a minuscule lead. By the time we go to SA we will have a lead of 10-12 points over the next best team and hence more cushion even if we lose. I rate top ranking in test cricket very highly. If this team can string together 4-5 years as year end no 1 team, that will be a stellar achievement, something only done by the mighty WI and Aus teams of the past. A lot of that will depend on a fit and in form Ashwin. Edited August 4, 2017 by Gollum JaFanatic and Jimmy Cliff 2 Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Can't even buy a wicket overseas and bullying against WI/SL/BD ......pretty representative of the Indian Team Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Can't even buy a wicket overseas and bullying against WI/SL/BD ......pretty representative of the Indian Team You missed Australia/NZ/SA/England . He has hardly played overseas. Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: You missed Australia/NZ/SA/England . He has hardly played overseas. Most recent memory of his is the CT for me ..... JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: Most recent memory of his is the CT for me ..... What a load of crap. He was back from injury bowling on a road. He should have never been picked against another subcontinent side on a road. RAZPOR 1 Link to comment
bleaf27 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: What a load of crap. He was back from injury bowling on a road. He should have never been picked against another subcontinent side on a road. What injury ? Secondly, If you are medically cleared to play - show up ! No excuse to play like a 12th player Horrendous when playing in ODI/T20s and esp overseas The same road where Rasheed / Shadab and Rashid bowled quite well through out ? He was horrible in every match he played in the CT ! RAZPOR and Singh bling 1 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 If anyone is impressed by Ashwin I feel bad for them. He is the most physically unfit person I have seen. His body fat is very high for a first class player and he is unfit. Needs to put on some muscle mass. Pathetic. Link to comment
Khota Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: What a load of crap. He was back from injury bowling on a road. He should have never been picked against another subcontinent side on a road. He should have been ethical and said no. Team comes first. He is not that good. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 hours ago, bleaf27 said: What injury ? Sports hernia The one with which he played Aus series at home and then sat out of IPL 3 hours ago, bleaf27 said: Secondly, If you are medically cleared to play - show up ! No excuse to play like a 12th player There is a thing called rhythem in bowling which takes time Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 6 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: What a load of crap. He was back from injury bowling on a road. He should have never been picked against another subcontinent side on a road. LOI have become more about wrist spinners now, every side is pref a leggie these days rather then an off spinner or finger spinner Ashwin shud only be picked incase opp has many leftie and pitch offers turn but in latter case also jadeja scores over him as he adds so much as a fielder Link to comment
Kerberos Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: You missed Australia/NZ/SA/England . He has hardly played overseas. So how is he quality if he has hardly played outside? Look, you use this conveniently. The only thing contested against the other place on this forum was spinners being quality. And you shoot back with the stats implying you consider them to be quality. Its sad to see you consider Ashwin quality inspite of him having not played much outside. Edited August 6, 2017 by Kerberos JaFanatic 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kerberos said: So how is he quality if he has hardly played outside? Look, you use this conveniently. The only thing contested against was spinners being quality. And you shoot back with the stats implying you consider them to be quality. Its sad to see you consider Ashwin quality inspite of him having not played much outside. He has won more series for India than anybody in Indian history including Tendulkar, Kumble, Kapil. Everyone had a chance to play at home. Why couldn't they do what Ashwin did. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;orderby=awards_series;team=6;template=results;type=allround;view=awards Link to comment
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