Deleted_User_1 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Kohli is real clutch, he needs to play some big knocks in key tournaments. Sachin has played some classic knocks on the big stage like Sharjah and WCs. I think Kohli is more clutch. By the time, he finishes he will have broken all sorts of records. Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Conditions are too batsman friendly and bowling attacks are pretty ordinary. that people who are starting their careers are scoring hundreds for fun and averaging over 50. Look at padosi. Babar,fakhar, imam ul haq. All averaging over 50s. Even a guy like hafeez*(avg 33 in Odis and 37 in tests) has some 11 hundreds in 200 matches. And a player like Hayden could score only 10 in 160 matches. Edited January 20, 2019 by Nonbeliever bahubali and Stan AF 1 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) On 1/18/2019 at 5:04 PM, putrevus said: Some people think Sachin played in Bradman’s era. He played till 2013 , there is nothing in Sachin’s batting which makes him better than Kohli. He had the biggest advantage of opening in Asia where it rarely swings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Man I know you are in love with kohli but using extreme words like nowhere near played in condition where no swing in Asia. Sachin played half of his odi in red balls, even when there was white ball odi in other countries in Asia it has been used regularly only after 2000. Also there was only one ball used during entire match. Also look at the bowler played during Sachin time. Even zim has better attack than last odi series we played against Australia, eng attack in odi is laughable same goes with current wi and sl so don't overexagrate .Also right now every team has above 50 AVG batsmen how many you have at past above 45 AVG batsmen. And no zahir AVG were only good in Asia have you seen his odi AVG in countries like Sena and wi so he is in no comparison with Sachin. Also kohli also have knack of falling at big occasion he has played 2 WC so far and has been utter failure. Look at Sachin AVG in all the WC which he has played. Kohli is ahead in biletral because of his second iinning exploits but telling Sachin is no where near kohli give me a sense of extremists vibes who consider no religion ahead of theirs. Edited January 20, 2019 by bahubali Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 11:34 AM, putrevus said: Some people think Sachin played in Bradman’s era. He played till 2013 , there is nothing in Sachin’s batting which makes him better than Kohli. He had the biggest advantage of opening in Asia where it rarely swings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What is Bradmen era? Regular Postmen playing cricket over weekend? bahubali and Nonbeliever 1 1 Link to comment
mishra Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) On 1/18/2019 at 9:57 AM, R!TTER said: Some kids & oldies tend to underrate how hard it is to score against the old ball on non super flat tracks, just look at this game! Suffice to say their rosy eyed tint only glows red it sees Kohli, & yes SRT is still the greatest Indian batter for the foreseeable future! Just imagine these bunch of guys against peak Warne or Murali, on surfaces that aren't made for T20 & just the one old ball. Anyone bringing yo - but he also faced these bowlers - clearly doesn't remember cricket pre 2007/08 which was 80% of his career! Ask them what is difference between white ball and red ball. They will say tell you “ Are you colour blind? One is white, other is red?” (Sarcasm there if u missed?) They tend to not even understand that even “colour blind” doesn’t involve “white” Edited January 20, 2019 by mishra bahubali 1 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, VT87 said: There is no denial that Sachin is better but some extreme chut@@# fan of Sachin behaves like virat is some gully mohala player in front of Sachin. If Sachin is 100 on scale of batting then virat probably 95 .I can also make excuses like this decade is hardest for test batting ,every team use home condition advantage blatantly .where Sachin gets benefit to play in most batting friendly era( piches were flat almost every where 2000-2010) But Sachin played during 89 to 2000 as well and pitches in AUs were more flat during 14. Pitches this time in AUs were tougher but no where close to during 98-2000 series. However pitches in SA this time were tougher. And I agree kohli is on par with Sachin purely due to his determination and temperament. But there are some blind kohli fan also whom you find saying Sachin is nowher near kohli. Edited January 20, 2019 by bahubali Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 6:23 PM, Nonbeliever said: No played in an era where players like ponting, lara,Hayden,arvinda,anwar,gilchlirs,Jayasuriya,Gibbs,yuvraj,inzmam could hardly average 40. ponting , lara , hayden , etc clearly averaged above 40 and sachin averaged 2 or 3 more than them meanwhile not many people are averaging around 60 like kohli does.. to put things in perspective for the sachin bhakths, sachin was little ahead of his peers .. kohli is way ahead of his peers Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 4 hours ago, bahubali said: But Sachin played during 89 to 2000 as well and pitches in AUs were more flat during 14. Pitches this time in AUs were tougher but no where close to during 98-2000 series. However pitches in SA this time were tougher. And I agree kohli is on par with Sachin purely due to his determination and temperament. But there are some blind kohli fan also whom you find saying Sachin is nowher near kohli. of course pitches were tough only during the era of sachin Switchblade and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 india tour of south africa , 1996 .. odi series including zimboks india tour of south africa , 2018 .. odi series not including zimboks let the dummies conclude whatever they wish Link to comment
Suhaan Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, velu said: of course pitches were tough only during the era of sachin Yes of course ,but once Thala comes out to bat,the whole kayanaat seems after him,i mean against him,so one cannot 'absolutely 'cannot compare Thala with anyone,let the Mortals play their puny game bahubali and velu 1 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 Batting first Kohli Matches: 91 Runs: 4060 Avg: 49.51 SR: 90.50 100s: 15 SRT played 91 ODIs batting first since 2001, his performance was like: Matches: 91 Runs: 4846 Avg: 58.38 SR: 88.07 100s: 18 What Kohli has been doing batting first now, far better level was easily achieved SRT when he started playing in batting friendly conditions in 2000s. Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Batting first Kohli Matches: 91 Runs: 4060 Avg: 49.51 SR: 90.50 100s: 15 SRT played 91 ODIs batting first since 2001, his performance was like: Matches: 91 Runs: 4846 Avg: 58.38 SR: 88.07 100s: 18 What Kohli has been doing batting first now, far better level was easily achieved SRT when he started playing in batting friendly conditions in 2000s. but we are looking at overall better odi batsmen , not just batting first only here batting first - sachin fielding first - kohli overall - kohli Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Batting first Kohli Matches: 91 Runs: 4060 Avg: 49.51 SR: 90.50 100s: 15 SRT played 91 ODIs batting first since 2001, his performance was like: Matches: 91 Runs: 4846 Avg: 58.38 SR: 88.07 100s: 18 What Kohli has been doing batting first now, far better level was easily achieved SRT when he started playing in batting friendly conditions in 2000s. not sure why you picked from 2001 instead of 2000 ( probably it gave 3.5 average boost ) .. averaging 150 and 115 vs namibia and kenya kohli didnt have those team to feats on , infact kohli was reguarly rested vs minnows Switchblade and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said: Velu bhai, You have been so busy appreciating the mediocrity that I don't take ur words seriously. ownage. Link to comment
bahubali Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 1 hour ago, velu said: india tour of south africa , 1996 .. odi series including zimboks india tour of south africa , 2018 .. odi series not including zimboks let the dummies conclude whatever they wish Dhongi doesn't even have century anainst Namibia, Kenya and Uganda.... Take that. Nonbeliever 1 Link to comment
velu Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, bahubali said: May be, but bringing dhongi definitely create some burn...may be you can ask Rasgulla for burnol he have it in plenty. oh sweet .. only people who need burnol here is sachin bhakts 8 minutes ago, bahubali said: Or may be how mopfu from zim owned dhongi. kohli owns sachin even more Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
zen Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 After pondering over the question, voted for Kohli Against the top 7 sides: Tendulkar Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1989-2012 399 391 31 15495 200* 43.04 18178 85.24 38 85 20 1677 160 Kohli Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2019 219 211 37 10385 183 59.68 11198 92.73 39 48 12 970 113 Profile filtered 2008-2019 195 190 31 9355 183 58.83 10093 92.68 35 44 11 867 105 Against the top 7 sides in matches won (In LOIs, one or two players can win you games) Tendulkar Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Match result won match Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1990-2012 181 181 24 8611 200* 54.84 9649 89.24 24 48 8 963 86 Kohli Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Match result won match Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2019 219 211 37 10385 183 59.68 11198 92.73 39 48 12 970 113 Profile filtered 2008-2019 113 112 27 6497 183 76.43 6744 96.33 28 25 7 626 76 Innings per 100 in matches won If you ask me who is more talented, the answer is Tendulkar. But Kohli has been more effective Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, velu said: but we are looking at overall better odi batsmen , not just batting first only here batting first - sachin fielding first - kohli overall - kohli Batting first - SRT Fielding first - Kohli WC - SRT Finals and knockout matches - SRT Overall you now know whom to choose. Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, zen said: After pondering over the question, voted for Kohli Against the top 7 sides: Tendulkar Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1989-2012 399 391 31 15495 200* 43.04 18178 85.24 38 85 20 1677 160 Kohli Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2019 219 211 37 10385 183 59.68 11198 92.73 39 48 12 970 113 Profile filtered 2008-2019 195 190 31 9355 183 58.83 10093 92.68 35 44 11 867 105 Against the top 7 sides in matches won (In LOIs, one or two players can win you games) Tendulkar Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Match result won match Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 1989-2012 463 452 41 18426 200* 44.83 21367 86.23 49 96 20 2016 195 Profile filtered 1990-2012 181 181 24 8611 200* 54.84 9649 89.24 24 48 8 963 86 Kohli Records type batting analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Opposition team Australia or England or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Match result won match Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s unfiltered 2008-2019 219 211 37 10385 183 59.68 11198 92.73 39 48 12 970 113 Profile filtered 2008-2019 113 112 27 6497 183 76.43 6744 96.33 28 25 7 626 76 Innings per 100 in matches won If you ask me who is more talented, the answer is Tendulkar. But Kohli has been more effective Sachin won 30 mom for batting after 205 innings and kohli won the same. Pretty sure india lost more matches during sachin time effecting his chances of wining man of the match. And definitely much better players were playing at that time Edited January 20, 2019 by Nonbeliever Link to comment
Nonbeliever Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Just now, velu said: yeah .. need some tips from sachin bhakths about how to properly use burnol No only from dhongi baba. Link to comment
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