LORD_analyst Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 16 hours ago, Vk1 said: Buzz and Cricinfo is infested with the samabar land guys. They just suck up to Dhoni at every moment. hahahaahahahaahahaahahahaahhahahahahhahaahhahaahahahahhaahhaah.... Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how on earth was it selfish, he almost won u game that to with injury. Had he been selfish he wud have choosen being retired hurt yesterday their were 2 example of approaching a chase 1. kohli- kept going got out team lost 2.dhoni - took the game late but got close team lost Methods are different at the end both were looking for victories Dhoni innings was vry good considering they didnt even get a good start which is important in high total chases . The only criticism CSk deserve is sending jadeja ahead of bravo Joke or What?? Kohli's approach has been effective and has won us many matches on his own while the later one screws his mate at the other end eventually the team. Laaloo and LORD_analyst 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: Joke or What?? Kohli's approach has been effective and has won us many matches on his own while the later one screws his mate at the other end eventually the team. In IPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: In IPL? Generally....Both but Not as much as He has won it for India..I meant India by 'us'.. Edited April 16, 2018 by Bigg Brother speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laaloo Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: how on earth was it selfish, he almost won u game that to with injury. Had he been selfish he wud have choosen being retired hurt yesterday their were 2 example of approaching a chase 1. kohli- kept going got out team lost 2.dhoni - took the game late but got close team lost Methods are different at the end both were looking for victories Dhoni innings was vry good considering they didnt even get a good start which is important in high total chases . The only criticism CSk deserve is sending jadeja ahead of bravo Bigg Brother and The Dark Horse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Bigg Brother said: Joke or What?? Kohli's approach has been effective and has won us many matches on his own while the later one screws his mate at the other end eventually the team. so had dhoni approach, its just at his dip in last few yrs not working and kohli is at peek so his execution is a bit more successful M just pointing at two methods last night and both failed last night and at the end we just look at result Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 6:48 PM, Laaloo said: Kal ka match dekhiye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 4/16/2018 at 8:00 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said: so had dhoni approach, its just at his dip in last few yrs not working and kohli is at peek so his execution is a bit more successful M just pointing at two methods last night and both failed last night and at the end we just look at result Kohli followed same footsteps, batted for not out (not for win) and was far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Horse Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 27 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli followed same footsteps, batted for not out (not for win) and was far behind. Both are different. For RCB, all key players were in the hut within the first 10 overs. Not the case with CSK as they had Bravo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli followed same footsteps, batted for not out (not for win) and was far behind. yes, he batted very slowly. he started hitting only when match was over. he was 37 of 32 balls once without a six. It did put pressure on others to score. QDK, ABDV, Corey fell to this urgency. You are opening and not making use of PP is not acceptable on a flat pitch. Difficult fathom they didnt play Vohra in place of Sarfaraz who is horribly out of touch after being out for one year due to injury. sscomp32 and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Both are different. For RCB, all key players were in the hut within the first 10 overs. Not the case with CSK as they had Bravo. Who was the cause for those players back in the hut? Kohli. he batted very slowly. 37 of 32 in first 10 overs batting PP is not acceptable at all. QDK, AB all tried to make up for his slowness and lost wickets. Kohli's safety first batting approach is hurting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Horse Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 32 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Who was the cause for those players back in the hut? Kohli. he batted very slowly. 37 of 32 in first 10 overs batting PP is not acceptable at all. QDK, AB all tried to make up for his slowness and lost wickets. Kohli's safety first batting approach is hurting him. Not defending Kohli, just putting context into the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dark Horse said: Both are different. For RCB, all key players were in the hut within the first 10 overs. Not the case with CSK as they had Bravo. All were in hut trying to accelerate because opener decided to play at SR of 100. They were 75-2 halfway through inning chasing 200+ runs easily falling short by 30 runs. At that time Kohli had scored 34 off 29, when situation and pitch needed 50+ in those many balls. It was not that they had lost 5 wickets by 9th over. They were left with RRR of 13 in 11 overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said: Not defending Kohli, just putting context into the discussion. That looks like defense only when you mention that CSK had players and RCB didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 yes, he batted very slowly. he started hitting only when match was over. he was 37 of 32 balls once without a six. It did put pressure on others to score. QDK, ABDV, Corey fell to this urgency. You are opening and not making use of PP is not acceptable on a flat pitch. Difficult fathom they didnt play Vohra in place of Sarfaraz who is horribly out of touch after being out for one year due to injury. Sarfaraz was played because he is the local lad. Also it appears Sarfaraz has a big politician backing. He’s a sifarshi player. Kohli was forced to play him yesterday. When he got out, Kohli turned his back on him as he didn’t even wanted to see his face and react.Yes, Kohli is making mistakes and gets emotional. But this ABDV is a joke of a player. Very rarely he wins matches on his own. He screws up most of the time.Kohli needs to completely overhaul his bowling line up. People have read Chahal now. He needs to bring in some mystery bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, asterix said: Sarfaraz was played because he is the local lad. Also it appears Sarfaraz has a big politician backing. He’s a sifarshi player. Kohli was forced to play him yesterday. When he got out, Kohli turned his back on him as he didn’t even wanted to see his face and react. Yes, Kohli is making mistakes and gets emotional. But this ABDV is a joke of a player. Very rarely he wins matches on his own. He screws up most of the time. Kohli needs to completely overhaul his bowling line up. People have read Chahal now. He needs to bring in some mystery bowler. sarfaraz is not a local lad. He is from UP and neither he has any political backing. He comes from a poor background. His father Naushad is a coach in Mumbai and they belong to UP. He is not a sifarishi selection. he was the top U19 batsman and did well for them in his first IPL. He is just out of form at this point after coming back from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Kohli followed same footsteps, batted for not out (not for win) and was far behind. kohli is the last who ll bat for not outs 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: yes, he batted very slowly. he started hitting only when match was over. he was 37 of 32 balls once without a six. It did put pressure on others to score. QDK, ABDV, Corey fell to this urgency. You are opening and not making use of PP is not acceptable on a flat pitch. thats kohli's game he generally picks momentum in last 5 overs , he did same in 2016 world t20 and knowing RCB lacks depth he ll even be more carefull About yesterday innings im sure he wud have this in mind that dew will fall late and he can catch up in that scenario also getting closer to target wud have been the idea as well to avoid bad NRR I dnt think so the idea is wrong, n i dnt knw why its considered bad to take a game till end but again that shud be left on individual player. Yesterday dew was expected and going at good pace till a point was ok, the problem was wkts kept falling at other side . Kohli is no russel, gayle or even rohit he has his ways of scoring runs n changing gears but others have to support him. If they rely on him then follow his game plan QDK, ABDV shud have batted through , wkts in hand and gers can be changed in last 5 overs and their was an added bonus of dew n smaller ground A problem with ABDV is at times he tries to much at start and ends up loosing it which he did against RR also. Wanre pointed the same thing when he was telling how kohli is a step ahead of abdv in LOI as he keeps it simple . A set abdv at 15th over wud have wrecked havoc, if dhoni can get close in 85 runs in 36 balls. ABDV with kohli cud have done better RCB is relying on these 3 and if they have to win they ll have to try to bat through as many times as possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, rkt.india said: Difficult fathom they didnt play Vohra in place of Sarfaraz who is horribly out of touch after being out for one year due to injury. Before that They shud try Pawan deshpande at 4 kohli de kock abdv Pawan deshpande colin ( he is in touch , corey hasnt played for long) mandeep Try this combination for few games, tell top 3 to bat 12-15 overs and leave a lil less for others my theory is give ill give 120 balls to kohli then manan , kohli will score more manan wnt even last that much . Kohli made 900+ in 2016 opening only and yesterday made runs to Also ABDV is better at 3 then 4, tell him not to try to much at start.....he out of all can cover the dot balls faster then anyone RCB has to bat around them IF this doesnt work Manan can be tried at top , with parthiv or QDK depending on he performs Also look at southee then woakes , southee is inconsistent but will win u a game or 2 on his own . At the end it all about somehow winnings 7-8 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: kohli is the last who ll bat for not outs thats kohli's game he generally picks momentum in last 5 overs , he did same in 2016 world t20 and knowing RCB lacks depth he ll even be more carefull About yesterday innings im sure he wud have this in mind that dew will fall late and he can catch up in that scenario also getting closer to target wud have been the idea as well to avoid bad NRR I dnt think so the idea is wrong, n i dnt knw why its considered bad to take a game till end but again that shud be left on individual player. Yesterday dew was expected and going at good pace till a point was ok, the problem was wkts kept falling at other side . Kohli is no russel, gayle or even rohit he has his ways of scoring runs n changing gears but others have to support him. If they rely on him then follow his game plan QDK, ABDV shud have batted through , wkts in hand and gers can be changed in last 5 overs and their was an added bonus of dew n smaller ground A problem with ABDV is at times he tries to much at start and ends up loosing it which he did against RR also. Wanre pointed the same thing when he was telling how kohli is a step ahead of abdv in LOI as he keeps it simple . A set abdv at 15th over wud have wrecked havoc, if dhoni can get close in 85 runs in 36 balls. ABDV with kohli cud have done better RCB is relying on these 3 and if they have to win they ll have to try to bat through as many times as possible there is difference in batting first and chasing. expecting to score 88 in last 5 overs while chasing is unreal. it rarely happens. you cannot have an RR of 8 till and expect you score 85-90 runs in last 5. Delhi chased down 195 against MI and they kept their scoring RR maintained at 10 RPO consistently. Kohli's approach is fine chasing low totals, but expecting to scorer 18-20 runs per in last 5 overs is just madness irrespective of the batsman. In this approach, you will never win. Raising RR creates pressure and you buckle under it. Delhi applied the approach of maintaining their scoring RR. Their approach yielded them right result against MI, lost against KKR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Before that They shud try Pawan deshpande at 4 kohli de kock abdv Pawan deshpande colin ( he is in touch , corey hasnt played for long) mandeep Try this combination for few games, tell top 3 to bat 12-15 overs and leave a lil less for others my theory is give ill give 120 balls to kohli then manan , kohli will score more manan wnt even last that much . Kohli made 900+ in 2016 opening only and yesterday made runs to Also ABDV is better at 3 then 4, tell him not to try to much at start.....he out of all can cover the dot balls faster then anyone RCB has to bat around them IF this doesnt work Manan can be tried at top , with parthiv or QDK depending on he performs Also look at southee then woakes , southee is inconsistent but will win u a game or 2 on his own . At the end it all about somehow winnings 7-8 games Deshpande is a hack. Kohli as opener is a risk. he wastes PP and if he gets out early, team morale takes hit. On flat pitches while chasing, PP is the most important factor. i want kohli at 4, ABDV at 3. Edited April 18, 2018 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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