BlackMamba Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Question is how many fast bowlers did anybody produce without using Teeth, Soda Caps and Sandpaper. It has been about 5 years since the video cameras are prominent and we all know who is producing what dont be. Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 13 hours ago, kohli said: Last 2 match 2 over 36 run This match was reduced to 12 overs when DD were bowling. There was a rain break, the field was wet and it was difficult for the bowlers to grip the ball or bowl yorkers. 13 hours ago, kohli said: 3 over 47 Even kohli will not leak this much run. He bowled badly in this match. Inexperience showed. But it happens to the best in the business or experienced bowlers even. Plunkett went at 17 runs per over in a previous match. Boult gave away 12 runs per over in that match. There are lots of such examples. T20 is an unforgiving format for bowlers and even lower order batsmen. The inexperienced are affected more. IPL should be used to identify young bowling talent .... for pacers, check their action, run-up, pace, bounce, ability to move the ball, ability to bowl yorkers and bouncers etc. .... for spinners , check ther abilty to spin the ball, their googly doosra, the zip and bounce they are getting off the deck etc. That is about it. Rightarmfast and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 He's not using his brain. Need to be trained. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 56 minutes ago, express bowling said: This match was reduced to 12 overs when DD were bowling. There was a rain break, the field was wet and it was difficult for the bowlers to grip the ball or bowl yorkers. He bowled badly in this match. Inexperience showed. But it happens to the best in the business or experienced bowlers even. Plunkett went at 17 runs per over in a previous match. Boult gave away 12 runs per over in that match. There are lots of such examples. T20 is an unforgiving format for bowlers and even lower order batsmen. The inexperienced are affected more. IPL should be used to identify young bowling talent .... for pacers, check their action, run-up, pace, bounce, ability to move the ball, ability to bowl yorkers and bouncers etc. .... for spinners , check ther abilty to spin the ball, their googly doosra, the zip and bounce they are getting off the deck etc. That is about it. Yes ipl is a showcase one should spot the talent and appreciate it,as the format doesn't spare even the best express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Suhaan said: Yes ipl is a showcase one should spot the talent and appreciate it,as the format doesn't spare even the best 52 minutes ago, Bilal78 said: Avesh is fast but his captain needs to use him as his main weapon. He is about 143-147 consistently which is very impressive and given that he can go up by 1 to 3 more kph he could be classed as a genuine out and out fast bowler. Exactly. Talent is identified . Now it should be groomed properly and with extra attention to get the final product. A really tall bouncy bowler bowling with genuine pace is rare from the subcontinent. ( We typically get quick pacers who are 5'8" to 6'1" range ... Akram, Srinath, D.Fernando, Ishant and Md. Irfan are exceptions ) Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
The Dark Horse Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) To be honest even Mavi is better than Avesh. A few kms slower but more accurate. I get the feeling that Avesh is content by just bowling quick, which would have worked until now but not at this level. Edited May 7, 2018 by The Dark Horse Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 1 hour ago, The Dark Horse said: To be honest even Mavi is better than Avesh. A few kms slower but more accurate. I get the feeling that Avesh is content by just bowling quick, which would have worked until now but not at this level. Bhai, all these guys have not even played international cricket yet. I feel both Mavi and Avesh have different strengths. While I feel Mavi is more Waqaresue in his approach, Avesh has more West Indian style in him. They are both going to complement each other and no need to judge either. As long as they bowl together and take heap loads of wickets, I dont care who is better than who. Suhaan, Mosher, express bowling and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Ellipsism Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Doesn’t have the X factor of Mavi. I maintain that the latter is the most talented fast bowler India has produced. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 14 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: Bhai, all these guys have not even played international cricket yet. I feel both Mavi and Avesh have different strengths. While I feel Mavi is more Waqaresue in his approach, Avesh has more West Indian style in him. They are both going to complement each other and no need to judge either. As long as they bowl together and take heap loads of wickets, I dont care who is better than who. and has not played much domestic cricket too. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, Ellipsism said: Doesn’t have the X factor of Mavi. I maintain that the latter is the most talented fast bowler India has produced. Different kinds of fast bowlers are needed to have a well rounded bowling attack. Avesh is the tall, bouncy and quick type ... Mavi is the short quick type who combines skiddiness and bounciness. Both have a lot of potential as international pacers and this variety is good. Edited May 8, 2018 by express bowling Mosher and Rightarmfast 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Avesh Nagarkoti Mavi Khaleel Prasidh This is going to be our front line attack by 2023. Ridgepi, BrantFUGH and Mosher 1 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: Avesh Nagarkoti Mavi Khaleel Prasidh This is going to be our front line attack by 2023. Bumrah will be just 29 after 5 years ... and likely to be there. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Avesh has not been selected in any team today...thats not correct. express bowling, BrantFUGH and Mosher 2 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 15 hours ago, rkt.india said: Avesh Nagarkoti Mavi Khaleel Prasidh This is going to be our front line attack by 2023. Mouth watering but knowing our past history of selectors n Dhonis we might see Unadkunt, Thakur, Chahar, and RP Singh Link to comment
tweaker Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/india-tour-of-south-africa-south-africa-vs-india-test-series/article22681292.ece/amp/ BrantFUGH, express bowling and Ridgepi 1 1 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/from-gumti-to-posh-hotel-avesh-khans-life-turns-around-at-full-pace-5380570/lite/ Avesh Khan is sitting in a posh hotel in Vadodara after a four- wicket haul against the visiting West Indies side in a warm-up game. On a pitch which welcomed batsmen with open arms, Avesh looked different. vishalvirsingh, Global.Baba, Laaloo and 5 others 3 1 2 2 Link to comment
speedheat Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, tweaker said: https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/from-gumti-to-posh-hotel-avesh-khans-life-turns-around-at-full-pace-5380570/lite/ Avesh Khan is sitting in a posh hotel in Vadodara after a four- wicket haul against the visiting West Indies side in a warm-up game. On a pitch which welcomed batsmen with open arms, Avesh looked different. Tweaker!! what length was he hitting?? I have always thought he had length issues, short to short of length mostly. BrantFUGH 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, speedheat said: Tweaker!! what length was he hitting?? I have always thought he had length issues, short to short of length mostly. All his wickets were lbw and bowled so that means he bowled full Mosher, Laaloo, tweaker and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to comment
speedheat Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Suhaan said: All his wickets were lbw and bowled so that means he bowled full Nice, with that pace always want him to hit 5-8m full+good length punctuating it with some quick yorkers and short balls keeping line intact. Edited October 1, 2018 by speedheat Global.Baba, tweaker and Mosher 2 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Hope to see Avesh bowling in Vijay Hazare now. His renewed confidence may aid him. And this coming Ranji season is very important. He needs to play every game and learn to bowl 20 overs a day with intensity and pace. BrantFUGH, Suhaan, Mosher and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment
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