BCCI vs PCB at the ICC Disputes Resolution Committee, Is the decision fixed to screw BCCI?

[Malcolm Merlyn]

Can you show a link that it is a valid contract?

Thats the word floating around. Hence bcci is going to challenge the case on 2 grounds.

1. Pcb didnot support the Big 3.
2. GoI has stopped the tour and hence is beyond bcci control.

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[Khota]

11 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Thats the word floating around. Hence bcci is going to challenge the case on 2 grounds.

1. Pcb didnot support the Big 3.
2. GoI has stopped the tour and hence is beyond bcci control.

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Makes sense.

Even if there is a breach of contract the dollar amount could always be in dispute. Plus there was nothing legal about that letter.

What else have you heard or read?

[Vilander]

5 hours ago, mishra said:

Let me put it simple. ICC has done nothing to spread Cricket in rest of world apart from siphoning off money to CA and ECB. Its dieing even in countries like South Africa, Zimbabwe and West Indies.

On Contrary, In Asia we have brilliant performance from HK, Afghanistan, Bangladesh. i.e. Three new teams.

 

If ACC can develop 3 more teams,  UAE, Iran and/or Saudi Arabia, That will be more than enough. I know Arabs, Who do watch Cricket.

In that sense yes. Asia internationals and bilaterals with eng aus nz sa. Not bad.

[Vilander]

58 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Bcci is likely to lose the case as the letter is valid under UK contractual laws.

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Fcking snakes they should pay for this.

[putrevus]

This is what happens when Cricket is run by useless fellows like everything else in this country. PCB is run by bunch of lazy morons who think they are entitled to free money. Sc*rew ICC, why is ICC not doing anything when Australia cancelled whole Bangladesh series at home.

[UrmiSinhaRay]

This is what happens when Cricket is run by useless fellows like everything else in this country. PCB is run by bunch of lazy morons who think they are entitled to free money. Sc*rew ICC, why is ICC not doing anything when Australia cancelled whole Bangladesh series at home.

ICC's real interest is to screw BCCI and squeeze them hard.

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[zen]

I do not know why PCB is pursuing this and wasting everyone’s time  

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

When i was criticizing Lodha and CoA many posters who on this thread are today criticiizng them were supporting them

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

When i was criticizing Lodha and CoA many posters who on this thread are today criticiizng them were supporting them

Exactly Lodha and COA are incompetenent bunch who have nothing to do with the economic power which BCCI have become.Srini mama might have 1000 faults but he was associated with cricket in this country long before cricket was making any money.

 

 

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Exactly Lodha and COA are incompetenent bunch who have nothing to do with the economic power which BCCI have become.Srini mama might have 1000 faults but he was associated with cricket in this country long before cricket was making any money.

 

 

 

The SC should have appointed better people than a  retired govt Babu,a nobody woman cricketer,a gandhi family boot licking historian.The only competent man was Vikram Limaye who quit long back.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

The SC should have appointed better people than a  retired govt Babu,a nobody woman cricketer,a gandhi family boot licking historian.The only competent man was Vikram Limaye who quit long back.

The board has to be run by businessmen who know how to run BCCI like a business not like PSUs who are so dependent on Govt doling out tax payers money to run them.

 

 

[Switchblade]

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/bcci-vs-pcb-khurshid-india-s-trump-card-in-icc-battle-with-pakistan/story-blTz03FXB9GfVS78diT3EI.html

 

India’s former External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid is seen as a key witness as the cricket Board bids to thwart a USD 70 million compensation claim by Pakistan at the International Cricket Council (ICC) Disputes Resolution Committee hearing in Dubai on grounds that BCCI had reneged on a 2014 agreement to play five bilateral series between 2015 and 2023.

The hearing began on Monday. Khurshid, who will appear on Tuesday, is expected to explain to the three-member ICC panel the role the Union government plays in clearing a cricket series between the arch-rivals, which is at the centre of India not playing Pakistan in bilateral matches. A top BCCI official in the know of things said Khurshid will be “India’s trump card” given his legal background and political understanding.

The ICC is adjudicating on the Pakistan Cricket Board’s demand for India having already refused to play two bilateral series as per the agreement. Sanjay Patel, who was BCCI secretary in 2014, will also be cross-examined on Tuesday. Also turning up in the witness box will be Ratnakar Shetty, who handled government relations on behalf of BCCI.

“There’s no way we could have avoided this ICC hearing. If BCCI didn’t attend, ICC would have given an ex-parte order that is non-appealable,” said the BCCI official. On Wednesday, ICC chairman Shashank Manohar, a former Indian Board chief, and Sundar Raman, a former IPL COO and close associate of N Srinivasan, will turn up as India’s witnesses.

Srinivasan, former BCCI chief who was ICC president in 2014, and former secretary and president Anurag Thakur declined to face cross-examination by PCB’s English lawyers.

PCB is demanding that India be held accountable as per their agreement. BCCI acting secretary Amitabh Choudhary has said in the past that Patel’s 2014 communication was a ‘letter of intent’ and not a final contract. However, BCCI could be at a disadvantage as the letter does not say any bilateral cricket against Pakistan is subject to government clearance. According to English contract law, on the basis of which the hearing is taking place, any document signed by two parties is binding and enforceable.

The ‘Memorandum of Understanding’ between BCCI and PCB was signed when the proposed ‘Big Three’ model, a brainchild of Srinivasan, gave India, Australia and England the lion’s share of ICC revenues and massive control over governance was facing opposition.

The BCCI and PCB agreed to enter into a long-form Future Tours Programme agreement but Pakistan had to first agree on the ‘Big Three’ model. After initial grouse, Pakistan helped India pass the model, assuming it would rake in dollars both ways – a share of ICC’s revenue and the lucrative TV rights from at least three bilateral series PCB would host.

The controversial ‘Big Three’ model was objected to by several full members including South Africa, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh and was eventually scrapped after Srinivasan, in November 2015, was sacked as ICC chief in the wake of the 2013 IPL fixing and betting scandal. After Manohar became ICC’s first independent chairman in May 2016, it was replaced by an April 2017 model based on ‘equity, common sense and simplicity’ and passed in the ICC 13 votes to one.

Patel wrote to then PCB chairman Najam Sethi that India and Pakistan will play five series comprising at least two Tests, five ODIs and two T20s, between December 2015 and December 2021, either in the UAE or a neutral venue agreed by both Boards. In addition, India and Pakistan agreed to play five ODIs in November-December 2022.

 

[putrevus]

Don't get it Mou was signed  for big three but there is no big three anymore so how eveen this letter of intent is even valid.

[Khota]

Transferring $70.00 mn from one board to another is a pipe dream. Not happening.

[mishra]

2 hours ago, Switchblade said:

 

Congressman Salman Khurshid representing Government.Also Snake Manohar Representing BCCI as he was former BCCI cheid PCB ki chaandi.

 

Whether BCCI pays a penny or not is different matter, But ruling will be in PCB's favour

Edited October 2, 2018 by mishra

[Khota]

9 minutes ago, mishra said:

Congressman Salman Khurshid representing Government.Also Snake Manohar Representing BCCI as he was former BCCI cheid PCB ki chaandi.

 

Whether BCCI pays a penny or not is different matter, But ruling will be in PCB's favour

Not necessarily.

[zen]

8 minutes ago, mishra said:

Whether BCCI pays a penny or not is different matter, But ruling will be in PCB's favour

why? 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, zen said:

why? 

From the Story
 

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India’s former External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid is seen as a key witness as the cricket Board bids to thwart

 

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On Wednesday, ICC chairman Shashank Manohar, a former Indian Board chief, and Sundar Raman, a former IPL COO and close associate of N Srinivasan, will turn up as India’s witnesses.

 

Salman is Congress

Snake Manohar is Congress

 

Game set match

 

[Dil Dil India]

On 10/1/2018 at 5:10 AM, Lala said:

The real thing behind is, India is fear of playing bilateral because history they know the results which is proved by head to head record. But India think one off victories like when both teams met in tournaments, Icc events, etc where India beat us and they think they are the world beaters. When you play at least 3 match bilateral series, you would realise team needs a few matches to comeback even they first game lost. India always had fluke wins like Icc wc group game wins and CT group game win, but when it comes to real game like CT final Pakistan always do their best. That's why bilateral are so much important to continue good relationship with neighbors. We have very good relationship with SL and Ban where we play each other quite often. That's the spirit and we have no issue with them. Arrogant teams like India and Australia are always think they are the best and their poor fans follows the same. BCCI should be responsible for this. Probably the guilty party to avoid bilaterals.

T20 2007 final >>>>>>>> CT final 2017

 

1996 WC QF and 2011 WC SF alone destroy your entire bilateral record. It's funny how you claim kitply and whisper trophies as the "real" tournaments and dismiss WC semis, quarters and ICC games LMAO.

 

I would try to get into how India were responsible, directly or indirectly, for booting Pak out in WC 2003, CT 2013, etc. but you would need an IQ bigger than Inzamam's waist size to be able to understand it. For now, apply some burnol and try to figure out how to beat Bangladesh.

[mishra]

12 minutes ago, Pace90 said:

Obviously because PCB is right in this matter.

With this one correct moove,, All i can say estimate is, Pakistan will moove into associate nation category by next odi world cup.

Please note that its not very far from it.