velu Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So , even adny flower use to sweep a lot he steps down and hit them out of park a lot to i can also play sweep , reverse sweep , lap sweep etc .. he is crappy vs spin and i am serious about this 8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Look If A has improved and B hasnt doesnt mean C will meet be like B yuvi when he came in was crap against spin and at his peek he destroyed them for fun Dhoni game agianst pace improved massively Rohit has improved his strike rotation Dhawan has improved like anything Gambhir when came in had a huge shuffle problem, he improved He is a quality player and he wud do, if he doesnt lets save the judgement till that time lets hope he improves .. will be good for us i have no doubt about his game vs pace and we dont have many players who can hit pace bowlers .. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, velu said: i can also play sweep , reverse sweep , lap sweep etc .. he is crappy vs spin and i am serious about this good luck doing that against an international spinner on international cricket pitches hows he crappy, when have u seen him getting squared against spin having no idea which way the ball is turning Edited November 29, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Every specialist batsman apart from him and Rohit has scored a 50. If he continues to bat like this then his average is likely to keep falling further UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 hours ago, beetle said: KL Rahul has gone Kambli in far less time.How long did Kambli take to self destruct ? Does that count as better SR? Can't compare with kambli who had average of 54 in tests and scored 2 doubles in almost half the matches (17) than Rahul (31) has played. Rahul should be compared with those averaging between 35 - 40. beetle and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
velu Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: good luck doing that against an international spinner on international cricket pitches hows he crappy, when have u seen him getting squared against spin having no idea which way the ball is turning everytime when i see him bat agaisnt any half decent spinner , he looked clueless .. dhanajaya completely ruined his budding ODI career as a #4 bat .. struggled versus afghan spinners ( everyone does though ) .. even he made maxi as muralidharan i am not biased .. only other batsmen who is crap against spin currently like rahul is my chota bhagwan dhoni Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, velu said: everytime when i see him bat agaisnt any half decent spinner , he looked clueless .. dhanajaya completely ruined his budding ODI career as a #4 bat .. struggled versus afghan spinners ( everyone does though ) .. even he made maxi as muralidharan i am not biased .. only other batsmen who is crap against spin currently like rahul is my chota bhagwan dhoni The other issue is even pace bowlers are taking his wickets cheaply. So its not that he is scoring good number of runs upfront in the innings to cover up his below par test average. velu 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, velu said: everytime when i see him bat agaisnt any half decent spinner , he looked clueless .. dhanajaya completely ruined his budding ODI career as a #4 bat .. Dhanajya was mystery spinner he also got kohli and rohit out Mendis made our greats look like fool 5 minutes ago, velu said: struggled versus afghan spinners ( everyone does though ) .. even he made maxi as muralidharan When??? this time the pitch was slow both games and some times player struggle with timing and its his bad patch....this things happen in bad patch its not that he cudnt read spinners 5 minutes ago, velu said: i am not biased .. only other batsmen who is crap against spin currently like rahul is my chota bhagwan dhoni rahane is bad against spin, manish pandey isn gr8 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: The other issue is even pace bowlers are taking his wickets cheaply. So its not that he is scoring good number of runs upfront in the innings to cover up his below par test average. its the ball coming in that started the problem and now self doubts have creeped in and thats the worst thing Coz batsman has less then a second and u cnt be in 2 minds, thats why they say bat with free mind he has developed a bad habbit in his technique , it wnt go away all of sudden will take time Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 @Lannister Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Ragardless, I will pick Rahul every single time of the other option is Dhoni. Even as a keeper-bat even though Rahul’s keeping is not up to the standard. MSD is that bad and over the hill. Link to comment
velu Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Dhanajya was mystery spinner he also got kohli and rohit out Mendis made our greats look like fool but kohli didnt gift his wicket like rahul .. i really think even our tailenders did better agaisnt him 14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: When??? this time the pitch was slow both games and some times player struggle with timing and its his bad patch....this things happen in bad patch its not that he cudnt read spinners in the only odi he played agaisnt them .. in the same game our other batsmen didnt struggle agaisnt them like rahul .. i strongly disagree .. he is clueless 17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: rahane is bad against spin, manish pandey isn gr8 i think both are still better than rahul vs spin Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, velu said: but kohli didnt gift his wicket like rahul .. i really think even our tailenders did better agaisnt him Only i think bhuvi and he has talent with bat Quote in the only odi he played agaisnt them .. in the same game our other batsmen didnt struggle agaisnt them like rahul .. i strongly disagree .. he is clueless How many odi's has he even played Quote i think both are still better than rahul vs spin ok lets agree to disagree Rahul for me is a damn good player of spin and for u he isnt Edited November 29, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, velu said: but kohli didnt gift his wicket like rahul .. i really think even our tailenders did better agaisnt him in the only odi he played agaisnt them .. in the same game our other batsmen didnt struggle agaisnt them like rahul .. i strongly disagree .. he is clueless i think both are still better than rahul vs spin You would pick Pandey and Rahane over Rahul? I guess we can end this thread right there Link to comment
velu Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: Ragardless, I will pick Rahul every single time of the other option is Dhoni. Even as a keeper-bat even though Rahul’s keeping is not up to the standard. MSD is that bad and over the hill. 34 year old dhoni is still a bettertest batsmen than 26yr old rahul UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
velu Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: How many odi's has he even played in whatever ODIs he played , he didnt give me any confidence 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: ok lets agree to disagree Rahul for me is a damn good player of spin and for u he isnt hope he proves me wrong i will target @Jimmy Cliff now Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
velu Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, Global.Baba said: You would pick Pandey and Rahane over Rahul? I guess we can end this thread right there you have to see the full sentence "vs spin" i will never pick pandeyji over rahul for but wont mind picking him for Switchblade 1 Link to comment
Sachinism Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Rahul has been given enough opportunities, which he has failed to grab. Time to go back to domestic cricket. velu, UrmiSinhaRay and beetle 1 2 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Sachinism said: Rahul has been given enough opportunities, which he has failed to grab. Time to go back to domestic cricket. The problem is he scores a T20 100 and is benched the next game, he scored another T20 100 is benched 2 games after that. Yes, you are responsible for grabbing your own chances but I get it when people use that as a crutch. Same thing in Tests, scores multiple 50s back to back and then is benched. 80% is his own fault but 20% he has been mismanaged like pretty much all the young talent bar Pandya I think he should be given one last consistent run in all formats. philcric and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
beetle Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Straight Drive said: Can't compare with kambli who had average of 54 in tests and scored 2 doubles in almost half the matches (17) than Rahul (31) has played. Rahul should be compared with those averaging between 35 - 40. Wow...that is not at all bad from kambli....but I meant self destruct in a non cricketing way with non cricketing stuff. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Global.Baba Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 30 minutes ago, velu said: 34 year old dhoni is still a bettertest batsmen than 26yr old rahul 43 year old Dhoni scores 14(33) type innings these days. Rahul scores 12(14) type innings. The latter is better UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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