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9 hours ago, Sloane84 said:

No. Aussie commentators think that the quartet of Cummins, Hazelwood, Starc and Lyon comprise the best bowling attack in the world presently.

 

Big difference from what you posted.

 

The best ever pace bowling attack of Australia consisted of Dennis Lillee, Jeff Thompson, Len Pascoe and Max Walker. 

Agree.  It was great to watch Lillee and Thompson.  Thompson was terrific with so much of pace. Having watched both attcks i rate Lille and Thompson as better than the Starc and co.

 

The best bowling attack i have ever watched remains Marshall, Holding, Big Bird and Robert.  Colin Croft was wonderful too watch those days but he got banned for being part of Rebel tour.  No team has had an attack like that.

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23 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

 

The best bowling attack i have ever watched remains Marshall, Holding, Big Bird and Robert.  Colin Croft was wonderful too watch those days but he got banned for being part of Rebel tour.  No team has had an attack like that.

 

Agree.

 

The best way to judge a player or an attack is the fear or dislike he or they create in the minds of the oppositions.

 

And the WI quartet of 1976 to 1984 was feared and disliked the most by the opposition batters.

 

 

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11 hours ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Last two years

 

SA at home 13 tests 242 wkts@19 , Away 9 Tests 149 wkts@30

India at home 11 Tests 203 wkts@24, Away 15 Tests 254 wkts@26

Eng at home 14 tests 255 wkts@25, Away 10 tests 137 wkts@39

 

Stats showing a different story!! (Steyn coming in does change things a lot)

Based on Stats only, one will conclude India is best biwling side

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4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Agree.

 

The best way to judge a player or an attack is the fear or dislike he or they create in the minds of the oppositions.

 

And the WI quartet of 1976 to 1984 was feared and disliked the most by the opposition batters.

 

 

There was an example of fear factor that you mentioned.  It involved Indian team facing WI in WI in 1976. Two declarations in one test match due to fear of pace bowlers.

 

I remember the one test in 1976 where Anshuman Gaekwad spent 3 days in hospital, Vishy ended with fractured fingers, Brijesh Patel retired hurt. Bedi declared the innings seeing this terrific spell of pace bowling. All this happened in first innings.  Holding,Julien and Daniel were the pace bowlers they had iirc. 

 

Gaekwad and Vishy were absent hurt and did not come to bat in second innings. In fact they did not even field after getting hit in first innings. Brijesh Patel, Bedi and Chandra too opted to be absent hurt. 5 Indian batsmen were absent hurt and Bedi declared again even though we had around 80 odd on board :giggle: and WI had to chase about 5 runs after this declaration.
 

 

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3 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

There was an example of fear factor that you mentioned.  It involved Indian team facing WI in WI in 1976. Two declarations in one test match due to fear of pace bowlers.

 

I remember the one test in 1976 where Anshuman Gaekwad spent 3 days in hospital, Vishy ended with fractured fingers, Brijesh Patel retired hurt. Bedi declared the innings seeing this terrific spell of pace bowling. All this happened in first innings.  Holding,Julien and Daniel were the pace bowlers they had iirc. 

  

Gaekwad and Vishy were absent hurt and did not come to bat in second innings. In fact they did not even field after getting hit in first innings. Brijesh Patel, Bedi and Chandra too opted to be absent hurt. 5 Indian batsmen were absent hurt and Bedi declared again even though we had around 80 odd on board :giggle: and WI had to chase about 5 runs after this declaration.
 

 

yep, that was pretty funny.

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4 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

There was an example of fear factor that you mentioned.  It involved Indian team facing WI in WI in 1976. Two declarations in one test match due to fear of pace bowlers.

 

I remember the one test in 1976 where Anshuman Gaekwad spent 3 days in hospital, Vishy ended with fractured fingers, Brijesh Patel retired hurt. Bedi declared the innings seeing this terrific spell of pace bowling. All this happened in first innings.  Holding,Julien and Daniel were the pace bowlers they had iirc. 

 

Gaekwad and Vishy were absent hurt and did not come to bat in second innings. In fact they did not even field after getting hit in first innings. Brijesh Patel, Bedi and Chandra too opted to be absent hurt. 5 Indian batsmen were absent hurt and Bedi declared again even though we had around 80 odd on board :giggle: and WI had to chase about 5 runs after this declaration.
 

 

That was most disgraceful and abject surrender by Bedi. I have no respect for that guy.He and others simply chickened out.Graeme Smith walked out to bat with broken thumb.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, putrevus said:

That was most disgraceful and abject surrender by Bedi. I have no respect for that guy.He and others simply chickened out.Graeme Smith walked out to bat with broken thumb.

 

 

Bedi was controversial even in his strategy in playing days. When he was captain on that 1976 tour, he went for Venkat, Chandra and him with all out spin attack. The medium pace was offered by Madan Lal and leftie all rounder Eknath Solkar. 

 

Apart from that incident i am not aware if any such declarations have happened in cricket apart from Bodyline series.  There were not as many press interviews during those times.  Also as you are probably aware that there were no helmet then as well as other protective gear so it is unclear whether Bedi did so after consideration view of players who were bowlers or he took that decision by himself. 

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34 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Bedi was controversial even in his strategy in playing days. When he was captain on that 1976 tour, he went for Venkat, Chandra and him with all out spin attack. The medium pace was offered by Madan Lal and leftie all rounder Eknath Solkar. 

 

Apart from that incident i am not aware if any such declarations have happened in cricket apart from Bodyline series.  There were not as many press interviews during those times.  Also as you are probably aware that there were no helmet then as well as other protective gear so it is unclear whether Bedi did so after consideration view of players who were bowlers or he took that decision by himself. 

bit of an exaggeration to call solkar an all-rounder. it just shows how bad indian team was those days... :) he was worse than stuart binny in bowling, somewhat better in batting and of course ATG close-in fielder for spinners.

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57 minutes ago, Vijy said:

bit of an exaggeration to call solkar an all-rounder. it just shows how bad indian team was those days... :) he was worse than stuart binny in bowling, somewhat better in batting and of course ATG close-in fielder for spinners.

Abid Ali, Salim Durani, Jaisimha too were utility players.

 

Indeed Solkar was the best close in fielder. 

 

There was a brief period though where we had a good top 5. Sunny, Gaekwad, Amarnath, Vishy and Vengsarkar were good imo. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Straight Drive said:

Abid Ali, Salim Durani, Jaisimha too were utility players.

 

Indeed Solkar was the best close in fielder. 

 

There was a brief period though where we had a good top 5. Sunny, Gaekwad, Amarnath, Vishy and Vengsarkar were good imo. 

 

 

yes, 1 ATG and 3 very good players (Amarnath was ATG against fast bowler in latter half of his career). gaekwad/chauhan were not good, but were solid and hung on.

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After watching Steyn/Rabada/Olivier blast out PAK for 177 in the best batting conditions on day 1, im convinced that no other attack can do that. Not OZ, not us. Certainly not the trundlers they are playing against. All 3 of them were really hammering the deck and getting life out of it. Best attack for a flat track. If they had a fit Ngidi instead of Philander that would be one scary bowling attack. 

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On 1/4/2019 at 2:33 PM, Nikhil_cric said:

After watching Steyn/Rabada/Olivier blast out PAK for 177 in the best batting conditions on day 1, im convinced that no other attack can do that. Not OZ, not us. Certainly not the trundlers they are playing against. All 3 of them were really hammering the deck and getting life out of it. Best attack for a flat track. If they had a fit Ngidi instead of Philander that would be one scary bowling attack. 

there's also nortje and patterson, both of whom are quick. also some 20-yr old whose name I have forgotten.

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