Dil Dil India Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 I keep hearing the argument "if XYZ wants to do this, they should be allowed to" in defense of outdated religious practices but the question is do they really "want" it, or are they just - for the lack of a better word - brainwashed and conditioned into doing it. P.S Let's make it religion neutral and not make it about any one particular religion.
MechEng Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) The world is a sick place and I'm not being a cynic. It's not just religion, if you by mistake end up reading what serial killers did to their victims, you would prefer to leave this planet immediately. Free will is a complicated concept, and this is something only the higher power (if there is one) knows it completely. Edited February 21, 2019 by MechEng
Zero_Unit Posted February 21, 2019 Posted February 21, 2019 Religion and free will doesn't mix well together. Alam_dar and Sachinism 1 1
Real McCoy Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Freewill doesnt exist. There is freedom of choice. Alam_dar 1
Tibarn Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Free will itself is a religious concept. How important it is considered varies, but it derives from religion only, at least some of them. It can't really conflict with its own basis... Moochad 1
Sachinism Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 If you're religious and believe in free will you are getting doubly-shafted. When it's convenient god did it, when you mess up you have free will, it was your own doing. Win-win for God Zero_Unit 1
Zero_Unit Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Sachinism said: If you're religious and believe in free will you are getting doubly-shafted. When it's convenient god did it, when you mess up you have free will, it was your own doing. Win-win for God On point Pretty much. Religious people are slave to God's will, not their own will. I find it extremely annoying and bias when something good happens, God wanted it, something bad happens, God wanted it. Doctor saved your life or you got an A+ on your exam, god magically made it happened. Would be interesting to see how that A+ turns into a F without the person actually putting time and effort into study. Laaloo 1
Zero_Unit Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) @Laalooyou have anything significant to say, say it. Don't keep it inside. Because my religious beliefs don't allign with your religious beliefs, you presume am trolling. Typical religious people mentality ... Edited February 22, 2019 by Zero_Unit Laaloo 1
Dil Dil India Posted February 22, 2019 Author Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Zero_Unit said: @Lala2790 you have anything significant to say, say it. Don't keep it inside. Because my religious beliefs don't allign with your religious beliefs, you presume am trolling. Typical religious people mentality ... To make sure he likes your loves your post you need to have either "TENDULKAR IS THE BEST" or "DHONI SUCKS". Everything else is trolling for him. Zero_Unit, Laaloo and The Dark Horse 2 1
Zero_Unit Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, Dil Dil India said: To make sure he likes your loves your post you need to have either "TENDULKAR IS THE BEST" or "DHONI SUCKS". Everything else is trolling for him. I also just realized, I tagged the wrong person. LMFAOOOO!!! Corrected. Laaloo 1
Ranvir Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/21/2019 at 6:21 PM, Dil Dil India said: I keep hearing the argument "if XYZ wants to do this, they should be allowed to" in defense of outdated religious practices but the question is do they really "want" it, or are they just - for the lack of a better word - brainwashed and conditioned into doing it. P.S Let's make it religion neutral and not make it about any one particular religion. We are brainwashed and conditioned into most of our behaviours, religious or not. Some are good and some are bad.
Moochad Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 6:53 AM, Tibarn said: Free will itself is a religious concept. How important it is considered varies, but it derives from religion only, at least some of them. It can't really conflict with its own basis... Some people want to have their cake and eat it too I guess
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