SinNombre Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Have we cancelled the military deal with Turkey yet? Erdogan is a POS who is disliked by the majority of educated Turks abroad. We should fund some of those dissident groups.
Vickydev Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) A little off topic... but the Brits really screwed up the world. So many territorial disputes are down to those bastards. Palestine, ME, Subcontinent, Western Africa,Ireland etc. If only they were made to pay for all this. Just reading this thread you see more examples of them fking with ethnicities and their territories...Cyprus should have been a Greek island just like the rest of them, Kurds a separate nation on their own. I hope someone invades the shits and cuts that nation up Edited February 15, 2020 by Vickydev
randomGuy Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Autonomous said: Should just make LOC a permanent border and move on with it, Any guesses what percentage of Pakistanis will be ok with this solution?
FischerTal Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 FM Jaishankar met with Armenian FM yesterday. Interesting timing after erdogan’s kashmir statement.
Autonomous Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 3 hours ago, randomGuy said: Any guesses what percentage of Pakistanis will be ok with this solution? Many do who follow the likes of Najam Sethi. Actually, we know that army is ripping us off after all, we are "bloody civilians" With current economic chaos, there has been very large scale unemployment, people are cursing this government and those who brought this upon us. Sooner it will be a majority view that these guys can't even manage and develop existing provinces, what will they do with IOK or what exactly is their kashmir strategy. Do you think millions that have dropped below poverty line would have Kashmir as their first choice concern? Situation in last two years has been out of control. This inept government couldn't even complete Peshawar Metro Bus in years such is their mis-management. Mostly "optimistic" people are expats/overseas pakistanis who are a joke.
randomGuy Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Autonomous said: Many do who follow the likes of Najam Sethi. Actually, we know that army is ripping us off after all, we are "bloody civilians" With current economic chaos, there has been very large scale unemployment, people are cursing this government and those who brought this upon us. Sooner it will be a majority view that these guys can't even manage and develop existing provinces, what will they do with IOK or what exactly is their kashmir strategy. Do you think millions that have dropped below poverty line would have Kashmir as their first choice concern? Situation in last two years has been out of control. This inept government couldn't even complete Peshawar Metro Bus in years such is their mis-management. Mostly "optimistic" people are expats/overseas pakistanis who are a joke. Indians wish well for Pakistanis and I am sure it's the same for Pakistani... Pakistan should propose for LoC to be made permanent border n India will accept.
First class Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 15 hours ago, Vickydev said: A little off topic... but the Brits really screwed up the world. So many territorial disputes are down to those bastards. Palestine, ME, Subcontinent, Western Africa,Ireland etc. If only they were made to pay for all this. Just reading this thread you see more examples of them fking with ethnicities and their territories...Cyprus should have been a Greek island just like the rest of them, Kurds a separate nation on their own. I hope someone invades the shits and cuts that nation up And Kashmiris should have given the right to decide their fate, finish the sentence.
First class Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 13 hours ago, randomGuy said: Any guesses what percentage of Pakistanis will be ok with this solution? 5-10%.
First class Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/14/2020 at 12:16 PM, Autonomous said: Imran Khan has some questions to answer. What exactly have malaysia and turkey given us, moral support means nothing. We need to fix unemployment, inflation and GDP as top priority which PM Imran thinks are not even part of KPI Dashboard of an economy. Until Pakistan is not stable and healthy in terms of economy and output, these all spotlights would be useless. Should just make LOC a permanent border and move on with it, use the defence expenditure on economy. Unbelievable, what other countries Pakistan has a chance to improve trade and when was the last time any other country supported Pakistan on world stage, particularly on Kashmir issue. I thought your knowledge is poor only in cricket.
Autonomous Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 4 hours ago, First class said: Unbelievable, what other countries Pakistan has a chance to improve trade and when was the last time any other country supported Pakistan on world stage, particularly on Kashmir issue. I thought your knowledge is poor only in cricket. We don't have anything for selling to turkey or malaysia, have you seen large-scale manufacturing numbers under PTI? I believe you are yet another expat living in PTI's lala land.
Vickydev Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, First class said: And Kashmiris should have given the right to decide their fate, finish the sentence. Nope...never intended to include them as I already mentioned the subcontinent. Was hinting at no partition had the Brits not f****d about. Edited February 16, 2020 by Vickydev
SecondSlip Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 6 hours ago, First class said: And Kashmiris should have given the right to decide their fate, finish the sentence. Kashmir should have been partitioned on religious lines just like Punjab & Bengal.
randomGuy Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 8 hours ago, First class said: 5-10%. It maybe worth having an opinion poll on this in Pakistan.. Sample size 50k - 100k... Two options - convert LOC into international border or hostilities remain as they are... I think results may be surprising
randomGuy Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 @Autonomous @First class ^^ I don't have anyone in Pakistan can one of you guys conduct such an (anonymous) opinion poll of say 100-500 people?
someone Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 12 hours ago, First class said: And Kashmiris should have given the right to decide their fate, finish the sentence. So secularism is dead once a certain community becomes majority? And in Kashmir, they got majority by doing genocide of Hindus. Today, the issue is not to have more Kashmirs in our country. Yet, its inevitable given the demographics and recent hostility by many such people.
panther Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 5 hours ago, randomGuy said: @Autonomous @First class ^^ I don't have anyone in Pakistan can one of you guys conduct such an (anonymous) opinion poll of say 100-500 people? We won't stop till Ghazwa e hind.
Stradlater Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, panther said: We won't stop till Ghazwa e hind. We are talking of mutually destructive wars and not jacking off contests. coffee_rules 1
First class Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Autonomous said: We don't have anything for selling to turkey or malaysia, have you seen large-scale manufacturing numbers under PTI? I believe you are yet another expat living in PTI's lala land. So you like, isolated, corrupt and insecure Pakistan of Bhuttos and Sharifs, again unbelievable, not sure you're from Pakistan .
First class Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 11 hours ago, SecondSlip said: Kashmir should have been partitioned on religious lines just like Punjab & Bengal. Agree with that. SecondSlip 1
Autonomous Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, First class said: So you like, isolated, corrupt and insecure Pakistan of Bhuttos and Sharifs, again unbelievable, not sure you're from Pakistan . I'm pretty sure you are not from pakistan. Because a pakistani can see what gross level of mis-management this current government is culprit of.
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