Young upcoming fast bowlers thread.

[rkt.india 15,136]

Here is the issue I have with Arjun. His back leg is collapsing a bit too much. He is short balls are quick but collapsed back foot means fuller ones aren't as sharp.

[New guy 5,625]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Here is the issue I have with Arjun. His back leg is collapsing a bit too much. He is short balls are quick but collapsed back foot means fuller ones aren't as sharp.

Shouldnt he have access to the best coaching money can buy? How does he still have such basics wrong?

[MultiB48 2,551]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Here is the issue I have with Arjun. His back leg is collapsing a bit too much. He is short balls are quick but collapsed back foot means fuller ones aren't as sharp.

How does it reduce pace?

[Vk1 2,120]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Here is the issue I have with Arjun. His back leg is collapsing a bit too much. He is short balls are quick but collapsed back foot means fuller ones aren't as sharp.

his runup too looks awkward.. but the boy seems to be a natural speedster.

[rkt.india 15,136]

35 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

his runup too looks awkward.. but the boy seems to be a natural speedster.

His runup is okay even if it doesn't look pleasing to eyes. He runs in hard which is good to generate pace.

[rkt.india 15,136]

1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

How does it reduce pace?

Collapsing backfoot means backfoot doesn't move as swiftly, it breaks the momentum for lower body but upper body is moving resulting in misalignment of center of mass that leads to loopy fuller deliveries, making them less sharp.

[Vk1 2,120]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

His runup is okay even if it doesn't look pleasing to eyes. He runs in hard which is good to generate pace.

ppl say that runup is critical to sustain rythym.. 

[express bowling 42,909]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

He has a strong action and uses his wrist well. He also runs in like he means it. It may not look very pleasing to eyes but he runs well, the way a hip dominant bowler should run in. Scope of improvement will always be there. He needs a coach who can work on improving his technique. 

 

 

Agree.

 

I just feel that he can use his shoulders more.

[rkt.india 15,136]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

Shouldnt he have access to the best coaching money can buy? How does he still have such basics wrong?

There aren't many coaches who have the knowledge to improve on such technical issues even if they know this is an issue. Collapsed back leg will also lead to back injuries. I did msg him about this issue but I don't think he saw it.

Edited Tuesday at 05:01 PM by rkt.india

[rkt.india 15,136]

2 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

ppl say that runup is critical to sustain rythym.. 

And he is doing that. For hip dominant bowlers, pace of the run-up is important. They need to run faster.

[rkt.india 15,136]

Initially, I was confused whether Arjun is hip or knee dominant but his first backfoot contact makes him hip dominant who has collapsed backfoot after landing. 

 

This makes him a hip dominant bowler.

[vayuu1 2,167]

Initially, I was confused whether Arjun is hip or knee dominant but his first backfoot contact makes him hip dominant who has collapsed backfoot after landing. 
 
This makes him a hip dominant bowler.

Other thing i have noticed is no use of non bowling arm,which is to gather momentum,plus his head position,if he can correct, and use his non bowling arm ,his fuller balls will get more zip,right now he is placing fuller balls rather than putting effort ,also could also be an issue with his wrist position as well,the locking isnt done properly ,which is why his fuller ones are loopy.

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[rkt.india 15,136]

39 minutes ago, vayuu1 said:

Other thing i have noticed is no use of non bowling arm,which is to gather momentum,plus his head position,if he can correct, and use his non bowling arm ,his fuller balls will get more zip,right now he is placing fuller balls rather than putting effort ,also could also be an issue with his wrist position as well,the locking isnt done properly ,which is why his fuller ones are loopy.

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Nonbowling arm is fine. Check the picture I posted above. It's at a good position.

[rkt.india 15,136]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIsO_T_nKcX/?igshid=fzwa6nvtcan5

 

Wasim Ali, Mumbai u19

 

[Suhaan 10,541]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIsO_T_nKcX/?igshid=fzwa6nvtcan5

 

Wasim Ali, Mumbai u19

 

Looks like chucking

[rkt.india 15,136]

Just now, Suhaan said:

Looks like chucking

Don't think he is chucking

[sarchasm 2,682]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CIsO_T_nKcX/?igshid=fzwa6nvtcan5

 

Wasim Ali, Mumbai u19

 

Is it me or there's some blatant straightening of the arm in that delivery?

[sarchasm 2,682]

1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Looks like chucking

Ha, nicely timed comment

[rkt.india 15,136]

1 hour ago, sarchasm said:

Is it me or there's some blatant straightening of the arm in that delivery?

BCCI is very strict against chuckers, would have been banned by now if that was the case.

[express bowling 42,909]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Don't think he is chucking

 

Looks ok to me.