Young upcoming fast bowlers thread.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, putrevus said:

Who has vettori selected based on social media speed gun?  Because it is still a sport that is played with a certain setup.

 

Every team uses speed guns but they don't select players based on some social media posts.

What's social media speed guns? These are proper speed guns that are used to measure speed even in baseball. Using speed gun to identify right talent is a great way to create fast bowling pool.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

What's social media speed guns? These are proper speed guns that are used to measure speed even in baseball. Using speed gun to identify right talent is a great way to create fast bowling pool.

I meant social media posts. Yes they are proper speed guns . yes it is one of the tools  and I bet every team uses those tools.

[Sgattick10]

Ravi Sharma seem like a good prospect, good action too, hope he gets to play in IPL but IPL too is about big names 

[rkt.india]

47 minutes ago, Sgattick10 said:

Ravi Sharma seem like a good prospect, good action too, hope he gets to play in IPL but IPL too is about big names 

RCB should pick him. He was RCB net bowler. He can be decent for T20 cricket with his low arm Yorkers.

[Need4Speed]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

RCB should pick him. He was RCB net bowler. He can be decent for T20 cricket with his low arm Yorkers.

The pace is avg of 145 per those speed guns..thats not bad either

[tapandrun]

When there are so many Domestic teams it is hard to Propagate and implement a thought/idea.

 

India's domestic cricket set-up is such BCCI can not ask state teams to play certain type of player; as its hard for all the teams to find those kind of players.

At intl. level I personally do not care what the speed gun reads, all that should mater is are they at the peak of their ability and skills or not and have some sort of x-factor.

 

But at domestics proper speed guns should be put in place and the bowlers who can or is bowling at good clicks (142 kmph +) should be listed and their progress should be reported back to NCA.

 

Then NCA should call these bowlers and put them into the programs to increase their strength and stamina and after that proper conditioning should be done.

And during off seasons these bowlers should go to NCA and work on bowling in channel at a sustained pace for a period of time.

 

And then NCA and IPL scouts work on their selections. Genuine quicks needs early identification and fast tracking. More you keep them at Domestic levels more they lose their pace.

 

Their are v.few examples of genuine quicks who has made into intl. level after an age of 25 years (24-28 is a prime of the quick bowler )

 

Why NCA and IPL not domestic teams/setups ?- At domestic level teams tries to win  as this attracts few sponsors and brings title for the team.

In India at non-international grounds there is v.little help for a quick bowler, and teams prefer to get military medium pacer over genuine quicks as the home teams can have green top, under prepared wkts where even an ordinary spinner can take wickets.

 

If you put yourself into the shoes of a domestic team's captain you would also pick a 2 medium pacer (who in theory bat a bit and bowl longer spells )and 3 spinners. plus for a high pace bowler you need a v.good wkt keeper (which is always overlooked when discussing abt having high pace bowler in the team) who can dive around and save runs behind the wkts (owing to wayward line or unexpected bounce) and take sharp catches..

There are not many wkt keepers in domestic circuit who are athletically good and are good batters 

 

If a domestic team has a decent batting line-up and run of the mill fast bowlers, they can win cups/trophies in domestic circuit-Mumbai, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and now Saurashtra are good examples of this. So there is no point for a captain to deviate from a well proven formula.

 

Someone can even make a good case for all spin attack.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 17, 2022 by tapandrun

[express bowling]

14 hours ago, Need4Speed said:

The bowler you posted..Ravi Sharma..proving difficult for Finn Allen..

I found his latest video below that..

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkLXcelhUvL/

 

Wow !  Consistently hitting 145 k to 151 k.

 

And it's not just the pace but Ravi Sharma has a very strong action and will extract a lot of life out of pitches. Ball release is probably good too 

 

Which state is he from ?

 

What's his age ?

Edited November 17, 2022 by express bowling

[Suhaan]

10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Wow !  Consistently hitting 145 k to 151 k.

 

And it's not just the pace but Ravi Sharma has a very strong action and will extract a lot of life out of pitches. Ball release is probably good too 

 

Which state is he from ?

 

What's his age ?

Already 26

[Suhaan]

11 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Wow !  Consistently hitting 145 k to 151 k.

 

And it's not just the pace but Ravi Sharma has a very strong action and will extract a lot of life out of pitches. Ball release is probably good too 

 

Which state is he from ?

 

What's his age ?

 

Just now, Suhaan said:

Already 26

Can be Haris Raufed into the side

[Need4Speed]

27 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Wow !  Consistently hitting 145 k to 151 k.

 

And it's not just the pace but Ravi Sharma has a very strong action and will extract a lot of life out of pitches. Ball release is probably good too 

 

Which state is he from ?

 

What's his age ?

Yes he looks very good..

actually @rkt.indiaposted about him and may know more about him..I just saw his other video below the one he posted..

that Coach Harsh Panwar seems to be grooming another left hand pacer hitting 149k..that was also posted by rkt

[Need4Speed]

18 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

 

Can be Haris Raufed into the side

Absolutely..once we start optimizing the usage of pace bowlers in the pool we have..age shouldnt be a barrier..

even if we can get 4-5 years of his besr cricket out of him..it will inspire many more bowlers..

[Need4Speed]

I hope bcci can create a rule or something for ipl franchises..to pick 2 145+ raw pace bowlers in their setup..who have good potential and keep grooming them..and they can play them if they seem good enough without deducting their purse..

Atleast that way we can have 20 fast bowlers groomed under good setups..

…..not just net bowlers only..

Edited November 17, 2022 by Need4Speed

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, Need4Speed said:

I hope bcci can create a rule or something for ipl franchises..to pick 2 145+ raw pace bowlers in their setup..who have good potential and keep grooming them..and they can play them if they seem good enough without deducting their purse..

Atleast that way we can have 20 fast bowlers groomed under good setups..

…..not just net bowlers only..

 

At IPl level this has to be organic and reward based thing which bcci is already doing by giving 1 lac inr for fastest ball, the bowler just need to bowl 1 fastest bowl per match.

 

Developing real quicks should be upto the NCA and then IPL scouts to work on selections.

 

It has become v. obvious to foreign IPL coaches that top wkt takers in Ind Domestic are barely medium pacers and no good at IPL level so they have been looking into other avenues- Social media has been of some help plus working with domestic players and private academies to find out new fast bowling talent.

 

The issue is IPL teams can call them into the camps and can speed check them but for its very hard to vouch/bid for unknown entity. No one can take that risk, speeds has to be followed by some domestic performance. IPL teams can req. state teams to give more chances to a player  who is already in their state team's set-up but for a bowler outside of the system  its not possible- N. Saini (supposibly 145kmph+ bowler)is an example of this. Gambhir had to virtually fight with DDCA to get him into the team

 

That's why Ind domestic needs speed gun and proper program from NCA.

Edited November 17, 2022 by tapandrun

[Need4Speed]

2 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

At IPl level this has to be organic and reward based thing which bcci is already doing by giving 1 lac inr for fastest ball, the bowler just need to bowl 1 fastest bowl per match.

 

Developing real quicks should be upto the NCA and then IPL scouts to work on selections.

 

It has become v. obvious to foreign IPL coaches that top wkt takers in Ind Domestic are barely medium pacers and no good at IPL level so they have been looking into other avenues- Social media has been of some help plus working with domestic players and private academies to find out new fast bowling talent.

 

The issue is IPL teams can call them into the camps and can speed check them but for its very hard to vouch/bid for unknown entity. No one can take that risk, speeds has to be followed by some domestic performance. IPL teams can req. state teams to give more chances to a player  who is already in their state team's set-up but for a bowler outside of the system  its not possible- N. Saini (supposibly 145kmph+ bowler)is an example of this. Gambhir had to virtually fight with DDCA to get him into the team

 

That's why Ind domestic needs speed gun and proper program from NCA.

I agree and in an ideal world they should do their job which they are not doing well.

I feel IPL teams may do it more due to accountability and laser sharp focus..

Ipl franchise can do whatever in their hands..scout them..train them..get them match ready and play them per potential..even IPL exposure will be good to see ceiling for these players..

after that it becomes BCCIs job what to do about those unearthed talents..and how to groom then further..

 

Ab Inko Khana paros k do..fir kya ye bolenge ki khila bhi do..haha

Edited November 17, 2022 by Need4Speed

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Wow !  Consistently hitting 145 k to 151 k.

 

And it's not just the pace but Ravi Sharma has a very strong action and will extract a lot of life out of pitches. Ball release is probably good too 

 

Which state is he from ?

 

What's his age ?

He is from Rajasthan 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

He is from Rajasthan 

 

 

UP and Rajasthan are fast bowling hotbeds.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

UP and Rajasthan are fast bowling hotbeds.

But respective selectors are shyting on that bed

[singhvivek141]

18 hours ago, rkt.india said:

RCB should pick him. He was RCB net bowler. He can be decent for T20 cricket with his low arm Yorkers.

Harshal baba will start bowling even slower.

[singhvivek141]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

He is from Rajasthan 

Rajasthan is producing many fast bowlers, but lack of space won't let him play.
Aniket, Tanveer, Khaleel, Deepak Chahar, Nagarkoti are first
then Ashok Sharma, Akash Singh, this Ravi guy.
Plus they have Rahul Chahar and Ravi Bishnoi as 2 spinners.....no space for upcoming bowlers.

[rkt.india]

18 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Rajasthan is producing many fast bowlers, but lack of space won't let him play.
Aniket, Tanveer, Khaleel, Deepak Chahar, Nagarkoti are first
then Ashok Sharma, Akash Singh, this Ravi guy.
Plus they have Rahul Chahar and Ravi Bishnoi as 2 spinners.....no space for upcoming bowlers.

Another serious talent u19 Salaudeen is coming up too. He missed last u19 wc due to injury. Otherwise, he was a certain starter. Top wicket taker in Vinoo Mankad trophy last season.