Change of approach to our batting

[Vk1]

Batting like English do Seems to be the only solution for our middle order batting issues. 

Bat as if you will be given out once your strike rate falls below 90 after facing 10 balls. 

 

[vayuu1]

For that u need depth in batting sadly we lack that.

[sergio04]

After this match top 3 will try to bat atleast 40 overs of inning.

[SK_IH]

You need ability as well. However, I do think India can attack spinners in middle overs and not allow them to bowl frugally.

[prudent_kreeda]

2 hours ago, SK_IH said:

You need ability as well. However, I do think India can attack spinners in middle overs and not allow them to bowl frugally.

      Yes . This is the most puzzling part . Since child hood these players have played spin more than pace , but they do not attack opposition spinners ,

      other teams  thrashing our spinners .

      You never see an effort to take a spinner out of the attack. If they cannot attack in PP , and do not attack spinners in middle phase , what they expect to score  at the death against Starc ? 15 runs per over ?

Edited January 14, 2020 by prudent_kreeda

[Cricketphile]

I think one side effect of improving infrastructure and better pitches, combined with harsher crackdown of suspicious bowling actions, is that most young generation Indians r not as good at playing spin as they were once used to. 
Also playing like England can backfire sometimes too as it did against pak in the champions trophy 2017 semi, against Sri Lanka in the World Cup 2019, and almost did against New Zealand in the final of 2019 World Cup. However we should be prepared to play like that and kl rahul needs to get that message 

[First class]

I think it was a case of "one bad day" , otherwise India's batting is very strong and all of them are attacking batsmen, I would not make any change. They need to be more aggressive in bowling. Leaving out Saini was a mistake and no need to replace him with bits and pieces "allrounders'. 

[prudent_kreeda]

10 minutes ago, Cricketphile said:

I think one side effect of improving infrastructure and better pitches, combined with harsher crackdown of suspicious bowling actions, is that most young generation Indians r not as good at playing spin as they were once used to. 
Also playing like England can backfire sometimes too as it did against pak in the champions trophy 2017 semi, against Sri Lanka in the World Cup 2019, and almost did against New Zealand in the final of 2019 World Cup. However we should be prepared to play like that and kl rahul needs to get that message 

      This persisted earlier too. Check the  data of part time spinners figures vs India . A Hafeez, Dilshan , Clarke , Moin , Root , all have decent strike

        rates.If you see past records most of time indians played spinners by taking singles . Only a few guys like Sidhu , Sachin , Kapil used to 

      attack in phases. Hit a boundary , play 3 dot balls and 1 single or take 4-5 singles in an over was the way they played . 

     Actually it is the youngsters who are more aggressive against spinners - Iyer , pant  but have not mastered calculated attack  where the gaps are

     exploited, inside out shots are played rather than trying to hit every attacking shot  for Six.    

      Of course - Rohit , Virat are exceptions - They have a very good all round game .

     

[sandeep]

6 hours ago, Vk1 said:

Batting like English do Seems to be the only solution for our middle order batting issues. 

Bat as if you will be given out once your strike rate falls below 90 after facing 10 balls. 

 

You are 2 years late with this observation.

[prudent_kreeda]

In the rest 2 matches , 

1. they need to show more attacking instinct after initial 2-3 overs . To succeed Rohit's stay in first 15 overs is must. 

2. Dhawan & KL cannot play the  way they played in this match . Should be given a target to go at run a ball.

3.  Take a hard look at the dot balls in today's match , provide data to batsmen who played how many dots . Can you imagine 150 dot Balls  !!!!. How the hell  you can compete with Aus with that .  

4.  Poor running - No one seem to address this . Its not even talked about . Only kohli seem to do that .  How many 2s indians take . Do they ever try 3 in first 35 overs ? Needs a major major change here.

5. Since you cannot attack Starc and  Cummins much at the death , compensate  by attacking spinners . You cannot allow 10 overs of spin to be completed by both at 5-6 RR per over .  Try to take at least 1 guy down. 

If you again get defeated , No worries , but at least go down by paying back  by the same medicine.