ravishingravi Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) This Corona virus pandemic has clearly shown me the prospective leaders the country can look forward. Kerala CM Pinarayi has done brilliantly. Sure he has legacy of rich state with low density of population. But the way Kerala have managed this pandemic has been nothing less than world class. Haryana CM Khattar brought in stringent measures early and largely contained the situation. Yes, Haryana doesn't have challenges and migration as much as other states. Tamil Nadu health minister was very good except the "one source" non sense and seems like they have flattened the curve. Karnataka have been excellent in testing and use of technology to track and trace Kejriwal did well in communication and optics. Yes, he is managing a small state with limited powers. But, he came across as a leader that liberal leftist and middle class could potentially rally around. He of course showed his sly side with the whole migration stunt he pulled off. However, I have so far been very impressed with how Yogi has managed the situation given the size of UP, population ( 200 Mn ), lack of education / infrastructure and huge migration from other states. I was dead against his selection as CM when it happened. It is equally impressive to see how UP are looking forward and not letting go off this crisis. Yogi will still need to cross many hurdles to stamp his growth model on UP, but the intent is there. Growth of UP will have a disproportionately high impact on India. https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/up-govt-exempts-industries-from-all-labour-laws-for-3-years-5870231.htm https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/up-woos-japanese-eu-companies-relocating-from-china/articleshow/75640377.cms Edited May 10, 2020 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yogi is the real deal. If he can create jobs in UP, and make it a manufacturing hub, he'll be a future PM. To improve India, you have to improve UP and bihar. The poorest states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 You forget UNESCO’s awardee of best CM of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 In BJP only those without wife become pm. Yogi fulfil the criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Manny_Pacquiao said: Yogi is the real deal. If he can create jobs in UP, and make it a manufacturing hub, he'll be a future PM. To improve India, you have to improve UP and bihar. The poorest states. add WB as well .. bongs are fairly literate when compared to bihar/up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Singh bling said: In BJP only those without wife become pm. Yogi fulfil the criteria. Still a more credible criteria than sucking up to one family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Kerala is not doing testing. Seems like No test, no cases is their mantra. Till May 2, they had done just 4000 tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: Kerala is not doing testing. Seems like No test, no cases is their mantra. Till May 2, they had done just 4000 tests. And journalists are hailing the Kerala Model. Looks like Kerala just adopted the West Bengal Model! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: And journalists are hailing the Kerala Model. Looks like Kerala just adopted the West Bengal Model! Or China model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: Kerala is not doing testing. Seems like No test, no cases is their mantra. Till May 2, they had done just 4000 tests. Do you have some data on this ? That number doesn’t look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, ravishingravi said: Do you have some data on this ? That number doesn’t look right. 4000 not total tests but 4000 is the Highest number of test they did in a day and number of tests per day didn't exceed 687 on average. They had 1.7 lacs people in isolation but testing in comparison is very low and they are chest thumping about low number of testing. Edited May 12, 2020 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Unfortunately our western neighbour has done a better job with lockdowns while trying to sustain livelihoods, a humane approach. Less deaths so far. If tests matter, they have done more than us per capita. Don't know if true but they claim even newyork is following smart lockdown approach seeing Imran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, randomGuy said: Unfortunately our western neighbour has done a better job with lockdowns while trying to sustain livelihoods, a humane approach. Less deaths so far. If tests matter, they have done more than us per capita. Don't know if true but they claim even newyork is following smart lockdown approach seeing Imran. Per capita numbers are misleading because their population is 20 cr, ours is 135 cr. So most countries will have more per capita test than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Per capita numbers are misleading because their population is 20 cr, ours is 135 cr. So most countries will have more per capita test than us. No it is not...you could say test per death or test per positive case are more important criteria...there as well Pakistan doing great...it is doing great at keeping livelihoods open as well.. Truly fantastic job following evidence based , practicable approach best applicable to their own country. Edited May 12, 2020 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 hours ago, randomGuy said: Unfortunately our western neighbour has done a better job with lockdowns while trying to sustain livelihoods, a humane approach. Less deaths so far. If tests matter, they have done more than us per capita. Don't know if true but they claim even newyork is following smart lockdown approach seeing Imran. That's a flawed thinking. Full Lockdown by Modi is one of the best decisions taken in modern India. From 500 cases to now 70K. Lockdown was never meant to kill the virus, but putting a "limit" to the damage. Our people with one community specifically have failed us as a country. We are a larger country than Pakistan, and the spread has been wide. That's been the main issue. It's a total failure of people co-operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, randomGuy said: No it is not...you could say test per death or test per positive case are more important criteria...there as well Pakistan doing great...it is doing great at keeping livelihoods open as well.. Truly fantastic job following evidence based , practicable approach best applicable to their own country. the numbers don’t add up. So, they are 1/5 th of our population and they have half our cases and they have done a good job ? On the economy, it has been a lockdown but not formally called as such. Sindh has been and still is under complete declared lock down. i haven’t seen any evidence on the ground yet. And test per positive case is not an important criteria of success. It only indicates how much a state should be testing. Edited May 12, 2020 by ravishingravi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: the numbers don’t add up. So, they are 1/5 th of our population and they have half our cases and they have done a good job ? On the economy, it has been a lockdown but not formally called as such. Sindh has been and still is under complete declared lock down. Because of more testing you have to do cost-benefit analysis of strict vs lose lockdown.. Edited May 12, 2020 by randomGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Today UP has more recovered cases than ailing ones apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravishingravi Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, randomGuy said: Because of more testing you have to do cost-benefit analysis of strict vs lose lockdown.. Not quite. You could test random people and have higher numbers. India is testing those with influenza like symptoms ie most likely to have corona. Every 20-25 tests yields a positive result. There is no reason to ramp up testing if the % of positive cases doesn’t change. It implies your sampling is correct. about 3-4 % positive results. If we are so eager to give credit to western neighbours, perhaps better thing to do a like to like comparison. UP and Pakistan. Similar population. Similar GDP. How does that stack up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, ravishingravi said: Not quite. You could test random people and have higher numbers. India is testing those with influenza like symptoms ie most likely to have corona. Every 20-25 tests yields a positive result. There is no reason to ramp up testing if the % of positive cases doesn’t change. It implies your sampling is correct. about 3-4 % positive results. If we are so eager to give credit to western neighbours, perhaps better thing to do a like to like comparison. UP and Pakistan. Similar population. Similar GDP. How does that stack up ? 1. UP has less people coming from abroad than Pakistan. 2. You must do cost-benefit analysis. How much more people of UP had to suffer - in terms of livelihood (for many it is life n death), freedom, mental health. There's no doubt in my mind that Pakistan did fantastically well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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