Sooda Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Haynes Gayle Lara Richards Chanderpaul Lloyd (c) DuJon Marshall Garner Walsh Ambrose -------- Discuss. Went for Gayle instead of Greenidge , Richardson being the other contender, because his explosiveness and bowling. Other options include drop Chanderpaul and 5 man pace attack with say Holding in. Thought about Carl Hooper too. sandeep and coffee_rules 1 1
Gollum Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Greenidge Gayle Viv Lara Hooper Lloyd (c) Dujon (wk) Garner Roberts Holding Ambrose Unlike tests I give ATG Aus the edge against this team. Unfortunate that Kanhai, Sobers didn't play much ODI cricket. zen 1
Gollum Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Sooda said: Discuss. Went for Gayle instead of Greenidge , Richardson being the other contender, because his explosiveness and bowling. Though SR may not show Greendige had the extra gear that Haynes lacked. Him and Gayle can be a devastating combo. 13 minutes ago, Sooda said: Other options include drop Chanderpaul and 5 man pace attack with say Holding in. Thought about Carl Hooper too Hooper for me, better match-winner than Chanders and WI could use his bowling.
zen Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sooda said: Discuss. Went for Gayle instead of Greenidge , Richardson being the other contender, because his explosiveness and bowling. Greenidge is an AT world 11 level opener! He was among the top ODI batsmen in the early years of the format.
Nikola Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Greenidge Haynes Viv Lara Hooper Lloyd Dujon (wk) Marshall Holding Ambrose Garner
zen Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) Considering current players as well: Greenidge Haynes/Gayle Lara Richards Lloyd Hope/Pooran (WK) Russell Roberts Ambrose Holding Garner With Greenidge, Lara & Richards + the bowling attack, the WI 11 is as good as any top tier AT11 Edited July 21, 2020 by zen Ankit_sharma03 1
zen Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Gollum said: Though SR may not show Greendige had the extra gear that Haynes lacked. Him and Gayle can be a devastating combo. The SR reflect the challenges in ODIs in those days - 50, 55, and 60 overs matches, red ball, no power play, etc. In an ODI vs. Ind in 1983/4, he hit 5 6s. IIRC, After Hirwani took that 16 wkts in a test in India, Greenidge burst his bubble by hitting 9 6s or so when Ind toured WI
coffee_rules Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sooda said: Haynes Gayle Lara Richards Chanderpaul Lloyd (c) DuJon Marshall Garner Walsh Ambrose -------- Discuss. Went for Gayle instead of Greenidge , Richardson being the other contender, because his explosiveness and bowling. Other options include drop Chanderpaul and 5 man pace attack with say Holding in. Thought about Carl Hooper too. Perfect, bowling team replace Chanders with Richie Richardson. I will go with Greenidge for aggression over Gayle. IVAR can roll a few spinners as well Edited July 22, 2020 by coffee_rules
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 why to pick dujon as keeper when u have options like Shai hope n pooran avl now My 15 Gayle hope viv Lara Hooper LLyod Russell ambrose Garner Roberts holding pooran haynes Bravo Cottreell (for left arm angle and he has done well till now) U can open with - Lara, haynes, greenidge and make Pooran keep in middle Or u can open with hope and play others in middle Viv, gayle, Hooper can do spinners job
Sooda Posted July 22, 2020 Author Posted July 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Gollum said: Though SR may not show Greendige had the extra gear that Haynes lacked. Him and Gayle can be a devastating combo. Hooper for me, better match-winner than Chanders and WI could use his bowling. Interesting thanks. Did know that Greenidge was destructive on his day, but yes the SR swayed me. Dont think Hoopers bowling would be needed with Gayle and Viv (all three being offies too) and Chanders was much more reliable batsmen. Saying that if you're 90's kid you have a soft spot for Carl Hooper :)
Sooda Posted July 22, 2020 Author Posted July 22, 2020 I thought it was "too soon" to consider Hope and Pooran.
maniac Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 12 hours ago, zen said: Considering current players as well: Greenidge Haynes/Gayle Lara Richards Lloyd Hope/Pooran (WK) Russell Roberts Ambrose Holding Garner With Greenidge, Lara & Richards + the bowling attack, the WI 11 is as good as any top tier AT11 They lack a spinner
maniac Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 Lance Gibbs has 300+ wickets for a spinner in his generation. That should be good enough to find him a spot in wi AT X1. Wonder why he gets omitted.
zen Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, maniac said: They lack a spinner “Richards” + a great pace attack
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, maniac said: Lance Gibbs has 300+ wickets for a spinner in his generation. That should be good enough to find him a spot in wi AT X1. Wonder why he gets omitted. has only played 3 odis or else ppl will also include sobers who adds a chinamen but he also played only 1 odi
maniac Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: has only played 3 odis or else ppl will also include sobers who adds a chinamen but he also played only 1 odi No I know this is a odi thread. However I have never seen his name mentioned on most AT WI X1 sides either.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, maniac said: No I know this is a odi thread. However I have never seen his name mentioned on most AT WI X1 sides either. reason being their pacers, its hard to drop one but playing spinners means dropping 2 and then guys like sobers n viv give them spin
maniac Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: reason being their pacers, its hard to drop one but playing spinners means dropping 2 and then guys like sobers n viv give them spin Sobers not sure if he picked most of his wickets with spin or pace but Richards is a typical run of the mill part timer. I won’t even say he is a batting allrounder like Sachin. At best he is a Mark Waugh level spinner. You don’t go with that as an option in SC. Our current lot would fold up against Richards than the ATG WI pace attack but that’s a different debate. However these day’s 4 fast bowlers on SC will not work. You still need a competent spinner. Edited July 22, 2020 by maniac
zen Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, maniac said: Our current lot would fold up against Richards than the ATG WI pace attack but that’s a different debate. However these day’s 4 fast bowlers on SC will not work. You still need a competent spinner. If more spinners are required based on conditions they have options to play Naraine, Benn, Harper (an excellent fielder too), and so on. But in general, these spinners won’t be considered over bowlers like Garner, Ambrose, Roberts and Holding. Even quality bowlers like Marshall (rated by many as the greatest pace bowler of AT in Tests) and Walsh, who are better than many pace bowlers from other countries, are not making the ODI 11. If a team has such a pool of pace bowlers, it will leverage on it. Edited July 22, 2020 by zen
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