Mosher Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, express bowling said: Avesh 4th over 130 135 130 134 134 Slower 10 run over 42 runs off 4 overs and no wickets. Can't believe this is the same guy. Avesh is going Munaf way. Lazy and unfit. https://www.hotstar.com/in/sports/sports/aveshs-bouncer-blows-away-rana/2002003602 express bowling 1
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 This guy is sitting at home. Shame on IPL team scouts. Mosher 1
Forward Defence Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He was one of their best bowler last season with 18 wickets in 11 games. Has also lost us a game against bangladesh since then. But I see your point. Hope he has gotten better
express bowling Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Khaleel is much more of a natural quick than Avesh but needs to get his thinking thought process right. That is what I want to see. Often, youngsters get misled in the early stages of their careers ... but the good ones come back. I want Khaleel to think and bowl like a quick bowler again. Hit the deck hard for bounce. He did bowl some quicker spells after his drop in pace. Let's see. Edited September 25, 2020 by express bowling Mosher 1
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 This guy is probably the quickest Indian bowler I have seen, is sitting at home. Shame on these IPL teams scouts. express bowling, Mosher, RAZPOR and 3 others 6
New guy Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: This guy is probably the quickest Indian bowler I have seen, is sitting at home. Shame on these IPL teams scouts. who is he
Suhaan Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Seems like we are going back to 2005-6 era where youngsters came with promise and pace but lost their way due to injuries and loss of pace It only changed when Umesh and Aaron came into the scene,despite going for runs they proved everyone wrong that Indians can't bowl express and sustain pace,it all changed since then but unfortunately youngsters taking wrong advice these days of not working hard Hope it doesn't happens yet again,they need to work extremely hard on fitness and retain their pace which is as precious as fitness Rightarmfast and Mosher 2
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, New guy said: who is he Gourav Yadav from MP. New guy 1
express bowling Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, rkt.india said: This guy is sitting at home. Shame on IPL team scouts. Kuldeep Sen is bowling some sharp and accurate yorkers here. It is strange that he is not part of any IPL team. Too much stress is put on U19 WC candidates and the others often take too long to get noticed. Mosher 1
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Seems like we are going back to 2005-6 era where youngsters came with promise and pace but lost their way due to injuries and loss of pace It only changed when Umesh and Aaron came into the scene,despite going for runs they proved everyone wrong that Indians can't bowl express and sustain pace,it all changed since then but unfortunately youngsters taking wrong advice these days of not working hard Hope it doesn't happens yet again,they need to work extremely hard on fitness and retain their pace which is as precious as fitness T20 is a bane for fast bowlers. It makes them fall into bad habits while trying to bowl different variations. They tend to forget their strengths which brought them into the team. Suhaan 1
Suhaan Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: Gourav Yadav from MP. Gaurav yadav is not that young either,should have been here this year itself express bowling 1
express bowling Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, rkt.india said: T20 is a bane for fast bowlers. It makes them fall into bad habits while trying to bowl different variations. They tend to forget their strengths which brought them into the team. Dhoni was saying today that for pacers, it is better to stick to a good line and length instead of trying too many variations. He said that there has to be consistency in line, length and pace. I agree. Saini is a case in point. In the first match he bowled quick and targeted the top of off stump, punctuated by some bouncers. Got 2 for 25. He tried too many slower balls and variation in the 2nd match and gave away 38 runs without a wicket. Slower balls and cutters should be used as surprise variation deliveries and not as stock balls, even more so if a pacer is a proper quick. Edited September 26, 2020 by express bowling Mosher 1
express bowling Posted September 25, 2020 Author Posted September 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Gaurav yadav is not that young either,should have been here this year itself Gaurav Yadav will be 29 in a month. Needs to be given chances sooner rather than later.
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Dhoni was saying today that for pacers, it is better to stick to a good line and length instead off trying too many variations. He said that there has to be consistency in line, length and pace. I agree. Saini is a case in point. In the first match he bowled quick and targeted the top of off stump, punctuated by some bouncers. Got 2 for 25. He tried too many slower balls and variation in the 2nd match and gave away 38 runs without a wicket. Slower balls and cutters should be used as surprise variation deliveries and not as stock balls, even more so if a pacer is a proper quick. A bowler needs to stick to his strength most of the time.
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Gaurav Yadav will be 29 in a month. Needs to be given chances sooner rather than later. IPL is the best platform for such players.
Suhaan Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Slower 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: Dhoni was saying today that for pacers, it is better to stick to a good line and length instead off trying too many variations. He said that there has to be consistency in line, length and pace. I agree. Saini is a case in point. In the first match he bowled quick and targeted the top of off stump, punctuated by some bouncers. Got 2 for 25. He tried too many slower balls and variation in the 2nd match and gave away 38 runs without a wicket. Slower balls and cutters should be used as surprise variation deliveries and not as stock balls, even more so if a pacer is a proper quick. Slower ones ne hi toh Khaleel ko zaleel kiya,he was much better when he used his good pace as stock deliveries suddenly he forgot that he was a pacer once and behaved like a trundler his whole body language changed I thought we have been working hard with our kids on their fitness ,training regime but this IPL has shown that there are still many guys who looked extremely unfit maybe due to current circumstances but that's not an excuse for professional cricketers like these Pant,Shaw,Avesh all looked chubby out of shape,even Pakistanis have started taking this thing seriously express bowling, Hell Raiser and Mosher 3
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Slower Slower ones ne hi toh Khaleel ko zaleel kiya,he was much better when he used his good pace as stock deliveries suddenly he forgot that he was a pacer once and behaved like a trundler his whole body language changed I thought we have been working hard with our kids on their fitness ,training regime but this IPL has shown that there are still many guys who looked extremely unfit maybe due to current circumstances but that's not an excuse for professional cricketers like these Pant,Shaw,Avesh all looked chubby out of shape,even Pakistanis have started taking this thing seriously Avesh has been out of shape much before lockdown in Ranji trophy too.
speedheat Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Seems like we are going back to 2005-6 era where youngsters came with promise and pace but lost their way due to injuries and loss of pace It only changed when Umesh and Aaron came into the scene,despite going for runs they proved everyone wrong that Indians can't bowl express and sustain pace,it all changed since then but unfortunately youngsters taking wrong advice these days of not working hard Hope it doesn't happens yet again,they need to work extremely hard on fitness and retain their pace which is as precious as fitness Chill Bro, it's only avesh and he never had natural pace he used to force pace . Fitness was also a question mark. No we are not going back to 2005 back than we had limited options but now we have tones of options available with potential ATG if we manage them well. I have tagged you in chit chat section for some reason, don't ignore Edited September 25, 2020 by speedheat
sandsaims Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 The bowlers need to stay away from the likes of Zaheer Khan who keeps propagating Indian bodies are not made for fast bowling. speedheat and express bowling 1 1
rkt.india Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, speedheat said: Chill Bro, it's only avesh and he never had natural pace he used to force pace . Fitness was also a question mark. No we are not going back to 2005 back than we had limited options but now we have tones of options available with potential ATG if we manage them well. I have tagged you in chit chat section for some reason, don't ignore Avesh is a power bowler. He needs to see the gym as much as possible. Improve his fitness, work on his body strength.
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