Three match winning innings by Attacking Left handers in last few years of test cricket

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

I do remember many saying when perera played that innings that pant cant play this 

[Ankit_sharma03]

having such an attacking left hander is such an X factor 

[Lone Wolf]

Left handers are always a big plus for any team.  But attacking left hand batsmen are X factors that can win you games by individual brilliance.  There is something about the range & the dynamics that left handers bring to the table.  And if they are clutch then they become an invaluable assests.  

All three knocks were special.  Very little to choose between these three.  Stokes & Pant one will always be remembered more coz of the context & opposition wise. 

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

38 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I do remember many saying when perera played that innings that pant cant play this 

This innings was not Perera/Stokes level. Pant played most of his innings batting with Pujara, Agarwal and Sundar. Perera and Stokes had record partnerships with the No. 11 batsmen.

[dilliboy]

Out of the 3 I would rate Perera's as the best, followed by Pant and then Stokes. Stokes' innings is slightly overrated considering it was at home and he would have been out had Australia not wasted a review earlier.. Not to forget that missed runout

[Lone Wolf]

10 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

This innings was not Perera/Stokes level. Pant played most of his innings batting with Pujara, Agarwal and Sundar. Perera and Stokes had record partnerships with the No. 11 batsmen.

But in a 4th inns chase in Gabba in a decider make it elite level like those two.  If that was any other Ground I'd have agreed with you.  Pant's knock is in that category. 

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

If that was any other Ground I'd have agreed with you.  Pant's knock is in that category. 

Disagree. Pant stayed till the end and took us over the line but it wasn't a single-handed effort. His partners at the other end, especially Pujara and Sundar who helped build those partnerships, deserve a lot of credit too. They ensured that things went according to plan and he didn't need to protect the tail. Perera and Stokes on the other hand had to win the match on their own.

[Stan AF]

It also means there aren't many good left arm seam/swing bowlers these days.

Zaheer used to trouble lefties for a good measure. smith, gayle, hayden strauss and cook. The day he got injured in the 2011 test series in england was a death blow to our chances

[Lone Wolf]

19 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Disagree. Pant stayed till the end and took us over the line but it wasn't a single-handed effort. His partners at the other end, especially Pujara and Sundar who helped build those partnerships, deserve a lot of credit too. They ensured that things went according to plan and he didn't need to protect the tail. Perera and Stokes on the other hand had to win the match on their own.

There was this no 11 Fernando who played 70 odd balls & scored 7-8 runs when Perera made 153..  His contribution was vital too.  Yes that was a freak knock indeed but Pant one was equally brilliant.  SA have fast scoring grounds with ultra fast outfields & reasonably small boundaries in Durban.  Here Gabba is humongous & the pitch is tough.  Also these kinds of knock never happen in Australia.  So that makes Pant's inns special in its own right & it's a freakin decider..  

To me all three are equal but Stokes & Pant's knock will get more eye balls & appreciation just coz of quality of opposition & context. 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

14 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

There was this no 11 Fernando who played 70 odd balls & scored 7-8 runs

He played 27 balls. What are you talking about?

[Serpico]

49 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

Disagree. Pant stayed till the end and took us over the line but it wasn't a single-handed effort. His partners at the other end, especially Pujara and Sundar who helped build those partnerships, deserve a lot of credit too. They ensured that things went according to plan and he didn't need to protect the tail. Perera and Stokes on the other hand had to win the match on their own.

all of that is true but pant also had the over limit on him. stokes and perera were in a situation where draw is virtually impossible. only way to not lose was to go for the win, so they had no choice there. Even if they failed in the process no one could have blamed them. Here draw was within the reach so if pant gets out playing a big shot and india lose, hindsight experts would have pounced on him for not managing the draw. The way he managed the delicate situation by taking calculated risks make it very special

[coffee_rules]

One of commies, don’t remember, said Pant is a chunkier version of Stokes, and that he batted, reminds him of Stokes and the way he crushed Aussies in the last years Ashes In the Leeds test when he scored a hundred in the 4th innings 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

48 minutes ago, Serpico said:

all of that is true but pant also had the over limit on him.

It was still achievable as long as he had batsmen at the other end. Chasing 70+ with the No. 11 when everything is on you is a lot more difficult than chasing 4-4.5 an over with a batsman at the other end helping you along the way.

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

He played 27 balls. What are you talking about?

Every Tailender contributed..  But that attack had Washed up Steyn Philander.  Here the Aussie attack is in his prime.  Durban favours SC teams as it is a non High veld venue both SL & India have won tests there previously.  We all know what Gabba is.  Kusal's knock was brilliant but so was Pant.  Come up with facts next time. 

[Lone Wolf]

30 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

One of commies, don’t remember, said Pant is a chunkier version of Stokes, and that he batted, reminds him of Stokes and the way he crushed Aussies in the last years Ashes In the Leeds test when he scored a hundred in the 4th innings 

Langer said that as well I think.  His opinion matters as an opposition coach.  Pant's knock was one of the finest 4th inns overseas knock by an Indian. 

Edited January 20, 2021 by Lone Wolf

[coffee_rules]

2 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Langer said that as well I think.  His opinion matters as an opposition coach.  Pant's knock was one of the finest 4th inns overseas knock by an Indian. 

 

The bat speeds of attacking shots of Pant, Washington were amazing to watch. I guess it's a by-product of IPL batting. Gill too. 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

10 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Every Tailender contributed..  But that attack had Washed up Steyn Philander.  Here the Aussie attack is in his prime.  Durban favours SC teams as it is a non High veld venue both SL & India have won tests there previously.  We all know what Gabba is.  Kusal's knock was brilliant but so was Pant.  Come up with facts next time. 

You're saying "come up with facts next time" yet you keep coming up with wrong facts every time. The least you could've done is checked the scorecard. You're saying "every tailender contributed". Suranga Lakmal got out first ball duck, Lasith Embuldeniya scored 4 off 12, Kasun Rajitha lbw for 1 off 10. You think by playing 10-12 balls they were contributing?

 

Again, it's one thing playing with the support of a batsman at the other end, it's another knowing you only have the No. 11 at the other end and that it's all on you. Pant had a sounding board almost all the way through, a batsman to talk to to guide the chase. Perera had a tailender who can't give good advice on how the ball is behaving, what the bowler might try to do in the over how to go about the chase or even assure that he will be able to stay at the wicket till the end.

[Lone Wolf]

18 minutes ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said:

You're saying "come up with facts next time" yet you keep coming up with wrong facts every time. The least you could've done is checked the scorecard. You're saying "every tailender contributed". Suranga Lakmal got out first ball duck, Lasith Embuldeniya scored 4 off 12, Kasun Rajitha lbw for 1 off 10. You think by playing 10-12 balls they were contributing?

 

Again, it's one thing playing with the support of a batsman at the other end, it's another knowing you only have the No. 11 at the other end and that it's all on you. Pant had a sounding board almost all the way through, a batsman to talk to to guide the chase. Perera had a tailender who can't give good advice on how the ball is behaving, what the bowler might try to do in the over how to go about the chase or even assure that he will be able to stay at the wicket till the end.

So isn't Durban not a non high veld venue?  Were Both Philander & Steyn not washed up??   Is Gabba more tough than Durban..  Hell yeah.  Is Aussie attack better-- by a country mile 

Come on man..  Just watch the highlights of both then compare. 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

So isn't Durban not a non high veld venue?  Were Both Philander & Steyn not washed up??   Is Gabba more tough than Durban..  Hell yeah.  Is Aussie attack better-- by a country mile 

India has lost 3 tests and won only once in Durban. Those losses too were big losses. 328 runs, 174 runs, 10 wickets.

Philander was Player Of The Series against India in 2018, taking 15 wickets @15.86. In 1 year, he became washed up?

 

Aussie attack might be better, but like I said, Pant didn't win it single-handedly. He had the support of the batsman at the other end. Perera only had the No. 11 so he had to score all the runs and plan it out all on his own. Previous 3 wickets had fallen for single digit scores.